Axl Foley 334 Report post Posted February 15 On 2/6/2025 at 9:14 AM, kipwinger said: I don’t really know. With the cap set to go WAY up and all our good players locked in a low cost deals we could basically spend as much as we wanted so long as it didn’t hamstring us long term. I’d imagine he’ll be looking in the 12-13 million range. Steep price to pay but we could afford it and he’s an elite talent that would still be good for most of the deal. Him, Larkin, Ray, Mo, Simon, and Cossa/Augustine is a really good core group to contend with going forward. tl;dr I think he’ll sign somewhere for 7 years x 12-13 million… He has not looked good in Carolina. Looking more like his offense was a result of MacK. Not really interested. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,123 Report post Posted February 24 (edited) Ok, lets entertain this idea: Most hockey insiders agree that Yzerman needs to be a buyer (conservative) this TDL. There's been a few names kicked around out there as Detroit being linked to, most recently Cozens, Zegras, and Pettersson. After thinking about these three for a while, I am not sure I'd want to give away the assets (prospect-wise) to acquire any of these. I am fine with dealing picks (even a 1st) but I really don't want to give up on Danielson, MBN, ASP or Kasper. I'm even hesitant on trading away Wallinder, but I do understand that you have to give to get. Again, draft picks don't bother me at this point considering I think our pool is pretty deep right now. That being said, I wouldn't mind a couple of VETS being acquired to help a playoff run, but also a youngster to help solidify the future. I am thinking three guys, the two vets are on teams looking to continue or start the rebuild, I am talking about The Hawks Ryan Donato and Pitt's Erik Karlsson. The youngster I'd like is Bowen Byrum. There is a good chance that we trade Tarasenko, so that will be trimming some cap off the roster. I am also ok with trading Berggren, Veleno, Rasmussen, a 1st, 2nd or 3rd, B level prospect like Viro, Hanas, or either of the Dower brothers, for example. I know Karlsson is 34, and he is not the 24 year old version of himself any longer, but with Pittsburgh looking to get out of the larger contracts, if we assumed the entire amount, it might not cost too much in assets to acquire him. I also wouldn't mind upping a deal and trying to acquire Cody Glass along with him. Ryan Donato is only 28 and could be a nice middle six player with a fair amount of playoff experience. He could also be extended as he is still young enough to be a core player. I don't see him costing more than a 3rd really, and that might even be a bit high. They could let the likes of Fischer walk and Donato would be a definte upgrade over him. Who knows, Motte might not even re-sign here. I'm hoping Kane does, but that's always a crapshoot too. Byrum is gonna cost some assets to acquire, and to re-sign him is going to be pricey, but the cap will be $95M next season. I can see him getting about $7M. Copp was placed on IR today, and Dries has been called up from GR. I think this puts a emphasis on acquiring a legit NHL center. The wrong injury and we're doomed. BTW, Rasmussen is listed day to day. I think Zegras should get a suspension for his hit. The head was the principle point of contact. Edited February 24 by LeftWinger 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,123 Report post Posted February 25 (edited) ...and it has begun! Now trade Tarasenko and let's use the cap space to make us better! Edited February 25 by LeftWinger 3 AtlantaHotWings, kipwinger and Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
town123 230 Report post Posted February 25 Does this mean the Wings are not retaining any % of his contract? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,123 Report post Posted February 25 5 hours ago, town123 said: Does this mean the Wings are not retaining any % of his contract? There is no retention. 1 town123 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,123 Report post Posted February 25 Andrew Copp is out 4-6 months. It's time to acquire that legit 2nd line center. LTIR is now our friend! 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diehardredwingsfan58 164 Report post Posted February 25 6 hours ago, town123 said: Does this mean the Wings are not retaining any % of his contract? Nope Anaheim is taking on Villes full $4,750,000 cap hit for future considerations. 1 town123 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,123 Report post Posted February 26 Next 2 games have big playoff implications. Back to back vs. Columbus. 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Motor City Mullets 302 Report post Posted February 26 21 hours ago, LeftWinger said: Andrew Copp is out 4-6 months. It's time to acquire that legit 2nd line center. LTIR is now our friend! Anyone interest you? I've seen some suggest Ryan O'Reilly...2 years left under contract...Getting a little old, but might be useful. 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,123 Report post Posted February 26 2 hours ago, Motor City Mullets said: Anyone interest you? I've seen some suggest Ryan O'Reilly...2 years left under contract...Getting a little old, but might be useful. Honestly, I am not against acquiring Ryan Donato. He shouldn't cost much to get, he's 28 and could be re-signed and be part of our core moving forward. Obviously I would be ok with the higher end guys rumored to be on the block, like Cozens, but I am afraid of the price. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,123 Report post Posted March 3 Wings are 2-4 the last 6 games. The 2 wins were sketchy at best. Yzerman needs to make some deals or this team will fall out of the playoff race again. This D is not going to make it. Kypreos mentioned that Red Wings were looking at Bennington in one of his articles. Could Yzerman deal for a goalie? I hope it doesn't cost us Cossa or Augustine... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diehardredwingsfan58 164 Report post Posted March 3 1 hour ago, LeftWinger said: Wings are 2-4 the last 6 games. The 2 wins were sketchy at best. Yzerman needs to make some deals or this team will fall out of the playoff race again. This D is not going to make it. Kypreos mentioned that Red Wings were looking at Bennington in one of his articles. Could Yzerman deal for a goalie? I hope it doesn't cost us Cossa or Augustine... If Doug Armstrong is asking for one of Cossa or Augustine for Jordan Binnington, Than he can keep him. 3 town123, mackel and LeftWinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
town123 230 Report post Posted March 3 4 hours ago, LeftWinger said: Wings are 2-4 the last 6 games. The 2 wins were sketchy at best. Yzerman needs to make some deals or this team will fall out of the playoff race again. This D is not going to make it. Kypreos mentioned that Red Wings were looking at Bennington in one of his articles. Could Yzerman deal for a goalie? I hope it doesn't cost us Cossa or Augustine... Wings have a really tough sked to finish this season. Rags have already folded knowing they don't have enough to get far in the playoffs and the Habs in the same boat. I'd love to see us make it in, but with this sked it's doubtful. I'm pretty sure whatever Ottawa does at the TDL will govern what we do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,123 Report post Posted March 4 (edited) All in with Boeser, Cozens, Byrum and (maybe) Donato. example of some assets to trade: Veleno, Tarasenko, Rasmussen, Holl, Berggren, Viro, Tuomisto, Stange, Savage, Liam Dower Nilsson, Aucoin, 1sts, 2nds, 3rds. Cozens and Byrum are obvious upgrades PLUS they are under 24 years old and will be part of the future. Boeser and Donato are also young enough (27 and 28) to be part of the immediate future and beyond into their 30's. Boeser wants a long term contract (6-8 years) and at 27, I don't see that as a problem. Obviously Vancouver does, they want a 3-4 year contract. Donato is only at $2M and may not cost too much more to extend. Cozens is locked in for 2 more season after this, and Byrum is an RFA, but may not break the bank. He could get $7Mx8 and I wouldn't be mad. Depending on the return, this four are upgrades to what we have now and will propel us into a future of consistent playoff performers. I hope Yzerman makes some kind of Splash by Friday, this team really needs it! We aren't wining the Cup this season (although at +15000 I just placed $35 bet on them winning it!) but moving forward with this suggested updated group along with Danielson, MBN, ASP, Cossa and Augustine, the future would look much brighter than it does at the moment. Edited March 4 by LeftWinger 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 760 Report post Posted March 4 Tyler Tiffoli maybe... the contract is kinda ugly but I love the player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diehardredwingsfan58 164 Report post Posted March 4 On 2/26/2025 at 10:58 AM, Motor City Mullets said: Anyone interest you? I've seen some suggest Ryan O'Reilly...2 years left under contract...Getting a little old, but might be useful. I would love to add Ryan O'Reilly to the Center core, But Barry Trotz has said that he's treating him like he has a NMC even though he has no trade protection what so ever. So he basically goes where he wants to go. And I'm not sure Detroit would be that team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmybigrigs69 354 Report post Posted March 5 To answer the title question... A: Do something Sell or buy. Either is an apropriate direction to take this team based on where we sit. What is not acceptable would be another year of indecision and fence sitting. And based on HSJ's most recent article in the free press... I'm a bit nervous SY is going to do exactly that and sit out the TDL again. In it McTodd says that SY believes in this group, but the players should not expect the calvary to be coming. I get the feeling SY will do nothing of any significance again, and the team will continue to lack a true direction. Barely missing the playoffs is literally the worst position any team can be in. See the old thread: Becoming Minnesota. Imagine if we had traded Fabbri and Walman at the TDL last year, instead of giving them away later on. We would have had better draft position and more picks. Imagine acquiring one or two more depth players last year... we would have likely won, at the very least, 1 more game down the stretch and made the playoffs. We do not want to be a directionless team stuck in perpetual mediocrity. If SY continues this "we like our team" bit again this week I'm going to lose a lot of faith in the existence of any sort of "plan". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmybigrigs69 354 Report post Posted March 5 (edited) If I was going to add, the team to look at for me is Seattle. To DET: Gourde + Oleksiak To SEA: Veleno + Berggren +2nd + 3rd Seattle gains two RFA forwards and picks to help build the future of their club. Detroit gains a big nasty Dman for the playoffs who's still under contract for next season, and a rental replacement for Copp. Not to mention, SY also drafted Gourde and he has cup winning experience with TBL. Kasper - Larkin - Raymond Dcat - Gourde - Kane Ras - JTC - Tarasenko Soderblom - Motte - Fischer IR: Copp Oleksiak - Seider Edvinsson - Chiarot AJo - Holl Gustafsson IR: Petry Edited March 5 by Jimmybigrigs69 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,123 Report post Posted March 5 (edited) Wtf is Yzerman doing? He added $1.2M to the cap and only acquired a conditional 4th? All the while giving away Kyle Aucoin and helping division rival Tampa get better? Isn't Gourde worth more than a 4th, especially retaining salary? I think Yzerman has lost his mind! Edited March 5 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
town123 230 Report post Posted March 5 I'm assuming Kyle may have a slightly better shot at a cup in Tampa or he's simply doing a favour. 1.25 for a 4th seems about right. Man, I think Seattle made out like bandits sending away very good depth players. TBay overpays again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stephen-gregory-yzerman 133 Report post Posted March 6 14 hours ago, LeftWinger said: Wtf is Yzerman doing? He added $1.2M to the cap and only acquired a conditional 4th? All the while giving away Kyle Aucoin and helping division rival Tampa get better? Isn't Gourde worth more than a 4th, especially retaining salary? I think Yzerman has lost his mind! Nothing to be upset about here. The team is essentially paying $330k for a 4th round pick. This has zero impact on what Yzerman can or cant do today and tomorrow. Aucoin is a 22yo d prospect that had to be signed this summer or his rights expire. He sucks and wasnt going to be signed he was a nothing throw in. As for helping a divisional rival. Do you think Detroit was Tampas only option to retain salary? If it wasnt Yzerman it woulda been another GM. A 4th round pick doesnt have much value but its essentially a free asset that can be used to select a player (another Lombardi?) or in another trade. I hope Yzerman does something more then this in the next 32 hours, but this trade was a smart way to weaponize all that cap space. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,123 Report post Posted March 6 59 minutes ago, stephen-gregory-yzerman said: Nothing to be upset about here. The team is essentially paying $330k for a 4th round pick. This has zero impact on what Yzerman can or cant do today and tomorrow. Aucoin is a 22yo d prospect that had to be signed this summer or his rights expire. He sucks and wasnt going to be signed he was a nothing throw in. As for helping a divisional rival. Do you think Detroit was Tampas only option to retain salary? If it wasnt Yzerman it woulda been another GM. A 4th round pick doesnt have much value but its essentially a free asset that can be used to select a player (another Lombardi?) or in another trade. I hope Yzerman does something more then this in the next 32 hours, but this trade was a smart way to weaponize all that cap space. I guess I just feel that helping out a division rival possibly win the Cup is worth a bit more than a 4th round pick. Here's to hoping Yzerman makes a deal or three by tomorrow! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
town123 230 Report post Posted March 6 Here's hoping Mazur gets in the lineup tonight. LGRW 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stephen-gregory-yzerman 133 Report post Posted March 6 41 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: I guess I just feel that helping out a division rival possibly win the Cup is worth a bit more than a 4th round pick. Here's to hoping Yzerman makes a deal or three by tomorrow! 1 hour ago, stephen-gregory-yzerman said: Nothing to be upset about here. The team is essentially paying $330k for a 4th round pick. This has zero impact on what Yzerman can or cant do today and tomorrow. Aucoin is a 22yo d prospect that had to be signed this summer or his rights expire. He sucks and wasnt going to be signed he was a nothing throw in. As for helping a divisional rival. Do you think Detroit was Tampas only option to retain salary? If it wasnt Yzerman it woulda been another GM. A 4th round pick doesnt have much value but its essentially a free asset that can be used to select a player (another Lombardi?) or in another trade. I hope Yzerman does something more then this in the next 32 hours, but this trade was a smart way to weaponize all that cap space. Id rather Yzerman pick up what was essentially a free 4th round pick then any other GM. This was just as much a favor to Yzerman as it was to Brisbois. This was a bad trade for TB imo. There going for it again but the window is rapidly closing. There stars are aging and there cupboard is empty with no 1st round picks in the next 3 drafts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,123 Report post Posted March 7 (edited) So.... now I'm seriously questioning Yzerman's sanity. He trades Walman AND a 2nd to San Jose for future considerations, now San Jose is trading him to Edmonton for a ******* 1st round pick!!! https://x.com/TheFourthPeriod/status/1897804423612469567?t=22rvpb1CriZv3KB1UL3Rsg&s=19 Edited March 7 by LeftWinger 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
