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Thurs morning coffee thoughts

We have 5 of 6 at home the 1 away is at Montreal currently having won 2 in row after last night. 

Do we want this team to go on a heater?

Lets put on the red colored shades(you all have a pair!)

    Say we win 4 of the next 6 which gets us back into the middle of the pack and maybe at the cusp of WC2 by end of December. Then we do decent enough in Jan/Feb/early March to keep us in the mix for WC2.

Are we going to be happy or sad with that scenario? Seems like it would put us in a similar spot as last year in no man's land come trade deadline. Not crappy enough to sell, not good enough to buy for a run so we get more meh. End up getting a mid level pick in the 1st and potentially saving Derek's  job. 

Now take the red colored shades off as those things can hurt your perspective. 

Who from here was this guy?

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2024/12/18/detroit-red-wings-shirtless-fan-little-caesars-arena-flyers-game/77078471007/

Edited by AtlantaHotWings

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1 hour ago, AtlantaHotWings said:

Thurs morning coffee thoughts

We have 5 of 6 at home the 1 away is at Montreal currently having won 2 in row after last night. 

Do we want this team to go on a heater?

Lets put on the red colored shades(you all have a pair!)

    Say we win 4 of the next 6 which gets us back into the middle of the pack and maybe at the cusp of WC2 by end of December. Then we do decent enough in Jan/Feb/early March to keep us in the mix for WC2.

Are we going to be happy or sad with that scenario? Seems like it would put us in a similar spot as last year in no man's land come trade deadline. Not crappy enough to sell, not good enough to buy for a run so we get more meh. End up getting a mid level pick in the 1st and potentially saving Derek's  job. 

Now take the red colored shades off as those things can hurt your perspective. 

Who from here was this guy?

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2024/12/18/detroit-red-wings-shirtless-fan-little-caesars-arena-flyers-game/77078471007/

If we make the playoffs because of unsustainably high levels of play from guys who aren't going to be around long (Kane, Tarasenko, Chiarot, Talbot, Gustafsson, etc.) then it's probably a bad thing. But if Larkin, Seider, Raymond, Edvinsson, Kasper, Debrincat can somehow drag us into the playoffs you'd have to think it's a good thing. Don't we WANT those guys to be team leaders who excel at playoff level hockey?

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15 hours ago, mackel said:

What would an equivalent trade package from the Wings have been for Kakko?  The cost seems very reasonable and the reward could be great.  I think Yzerman is Uber conservative... and it's hurting us.

I would think that since Borgen only has 2 points in 33 games played that Lagesson would be equivalent? Both 28, Lagesson is a bit larger is stature. The draft picks we definitely could've matched.

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4 hours ago, AtlantaHotWings said:

Thurs morning coffee thoughts

We have 5 of 6 at home the 1 away is at Montreal currently having won 2 in row after last night. 

Do we want this team to go on a heater?

Lets put on the red colored shades(you all have a pair!)

    Say we win 4 of the next 6 which gets us back into the middle of the pack and maybe at the cusp of WC2 by end of December. Then we do decent enough in Jan/Feb/early March to keep us in the mix for WC2.

Are we going to be happy or sad with that scenario? Seems like it would put us in a similar spot as last year in no man's land come trade deadline. Not crappy enough to sell, not good enough to buy for a run so we get more meh. End up getting a mid level pick in the 1st and potentially saving Derek's  job. 

Now take the red colored shades off as those things can hurt your perspective. 

Who from here was this guy?

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2024/12/18/detroit-red-wings-shirtless-fan-little-caesars-arena-flyers-game/77078471007/

Either way, Yzerman is not going to make this team any better this season. That has been shown by not acquiring any of the players that have been on the move recently that would've definitely made the team better. He is probably going to ride this team throughout and see if they can squeak in.

As mentioned above, Yzerman could've matched the Kakko trade.

Real Trade: Kakko for Boren, 25 3rd, 25 6th

US: Kakko for Lagesson, 25 3rd (we have 2), 25 6th

Fowler trade:

Real Trade: Fowler, 4th for a 2nd, J. Biakabatuka (who we once had)

US: Fowler, 4th for a 2nd, E. Viro (or K. Aucoin)

Trouba trade:

Real Trade: Trouba for a Conditional 4th, U. Vaakanainen

US: Trouba for a conditional 4th, again Viro or Aucoin

Jiricek trade:

Reak Trade: Jiricek and a 5th for D. Hunt, a 2025 1st round pick, 2026 3rd round pick, 2026 4th round pick, and 2027 2nd round pick

US: Jiricek and a 5th for (again) Viro or Aucoin, a 2025 1st round pick(protected), 2026 3rd round pick, 2026 4th round pick, and 2027 2nd round pick

Liljegrin trade:

Real Trade: Liljegrin for M. Benning, a 2026 6th round pick and a Conditional 2025 3rd round pick

US: Liljegrin for Lagesson, a 2026 6th round pick and a Conditional 2025 3rd round pick

Any one of, or combination of these trades would make our team better. For salary cap issues, you just waive players that suck or try to move some salary out to others.

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4 hours ago, mackel said:

What are they... don't have Twitter... 

sorry Mackel my ending of not too bad should read as sarcasm got wiped

       Thompson for Joe V straight up 

        Berggren and a second for Byram.

my fav Petry for a beef on weck and original buffalo wings

I guess this is part of the catchall Wings extended

 
 
 
 
 
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Hey, gang. A bit of personal news here. I’ve decided to retire from TV at the end of this Red Wings season.

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