2024-25 In Season Trades/Waivers/Promotions Thread

[Motor City Mullets 296]

12 minutes ago, Rick D said:

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/rangers-have-multiple-deals-for-jacob-trouba-need-consent-to-waive-no-trade-clause-1.2214993

 

I wonder if the wings are still interested, they would have to make some cap moves to get him in under budget. 

Would be amusing if rival GMs are lowballing Drury, then seeing Trouba negate any move, and Rags owner Dolan in a fit of rage wants Trouba dumped via waivers...

+fingers crossed+

[LeftWinger 5,090]

2 hours ago, Rick D said:

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/rangers-have-multiple-deals-for-jacob-trouba-need-consent-to-waive-no-trade-clause-1.2214993

 

I wonder if the wings are still interested, they would have to make some cap moves to get him in under budget. 

Apparently Detroit, Anaheim and Columbus interested. Of those 3 bottom feeders, I believe if he did waive his NTC, he'd choose to come home....maybe?

[AtlantaHotWings 1,110]

4 hours ago, Rick D said:

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/rangers-have-multiple-deals-for-jacob-trouba-need-consent-to-waive-no-trade-clause-1.2214993

 

I wonder if the wings are still interested, they would have to make some cap moves to get him in under budget. 

https://x.com/spittinchiclets/status/1865118989195653317

 

[mackel 755]

1 hour ago, AtlantaHotWings said:

https://x.com/spittinchiclets/status/1865118989195653317

 

Dodged a bullet there... let's hope he doesn't want to sign here in the offseason.  Chairot 2.0 can GTFO.

[Akakabuto 1,838]

We don’t need a Trouba. We need a McDonaugh. (Where he was when he joined the Lightning)

[mackel 755]

3 hours ago, Akakabuto said:

We don’t need a Trouba. We need a McDonaugh. (Where he was when he joined the Lightning)

Yes and that we were "in on him" in the summer and just now... paired with the golf awful FAs the last few years makes me think we need to fire the entire pro scouting crew ASAP

[Jimmybigrigs69 317]

Trouba - 8 pts in 38 games. f*** that fayget lol. He deservez everything hes earned. 

[kipwinger 8,732]

Real Question: If we fall out of playoff contention would you rather trade Talbot for the solid return he would surely get, or keep him around and let him mentor Cossa next year?

[Rick D 382]

1 hour ago, kipwinger said:

Real Question: If we fall out of playoff contention would you rather trade Talbot for the solid return he would surely get, or keep him around and let him mentor Cossa next year?

I'd trade him. We need assets, we are still in a rebuild. 

[Axl Foley 332]

3 hours ago, kipwinger said:

Real Question: If we fall out of playoff contention would you rather trade Talbot for the solid return he would surely get, or keep him around and let him mentor Cossa next year?

If you trade him, then he will have to just be replaced in free agency with another vet.

[kipwinger 8,732]

45 minutes ago, Axl Foley said:

If you trade him, then he will have to just be replaced in free agency with another vet.

Yep, but you’d also have whatever you traded Talbot for as well. 

[mackel 755]

20 minutes ago, kipwinger said:

Yep, but you’d also have whatever you traded Talbot for as well. 

Look at the playing time under Todd... I think Lyon will be resigned and Talbot gets traded NEXT YEAR with Cossa spending another year in GR.

[kipwinger 8,732]

12 minutes ago, mackel said:

Look at the playing time under Todd... I think Lyon will be resigned and Talbot gets traded NEXT YEAR with Cossa spending another year in GR.

That’s a spicy take.

[mackel 755]

2 minutes ago, kipwinger said:

That’s a spicy take.

Thanks 

[town123 218]

Who is the better mentor for Cossa and does he really need one?    Who gets you more in a trade?

[kipwinger 8,732]

Friedman says the Wings were looking at Cozens. They’d need to take money back. Maybe something built around Compher and a 1st?

[Jimmybigrigs69 317]

2 hours ago, town123 said:

Who is the better mentor for Cossa and does he really need one?    Who gets you more in a trade?

If you want the best mentor for Cossa, that's easily Talbot. A lot of expierence at the NHL level, at a lot of different teams, in a lot of different scenarios. And he seems to be well liked, trusted, and has aged gracefully. 

Lyon offers none of that. And while closer to his prime, IMO, he has just as much risk of falling off a cliff that an aging Talbot has. 

IMHO Wings would be stupid to keep Cossa off the roster next year. Its the final year of his ELC, and we will likely be signing Augustine this spring/summer. Trey is making the NCAA and world juniors his ***** this year. He will absolutely need to be elevated to a higher level. Talbot has 1 year left and Cossa can take Lyons spot inorder to pass the GR net to Treydog. Therefore we get a year to elevuate Cossa at the NHL level b4 commiting to a bigger contract for him. Which will be very important considering Augustines current trajectory. 

In the end, I do not forsee Cossa lasting as a wing for too long... he'll probably earn a 2-3 contract after next year, but he'll be trade bait at the end of that contract, cause it's going to be treyday sooner than anyone realizes. 

[mackel 755]

6 minutes ago, Jimmybigrigs69 said:

If you want the best mentor for Cossa, that's easily Talbot. A lot of expierence at the NHL level, at a lot of different teams, in a lot of different scenarios. And he seems to be well liked, trusted, and has aged gracefully. 

Lyon offers none of that. And while closer to his prime, IMO, he has just as much risk of falling off a cliff that an aging Talbot has. 

IMHO Wings would be stupid to keep Cossa off the roster next year. Its the final year of his ELC, and we will likely be signing Augustine this spring/summer. Trey is making the NCAA and world juniors his ***** this year. He will absolutely need to be elevated to a higher level. Talbot has 1 year left and Cossa can take Lyons spot inorder to pass the GR net to Treydog. Therefore we get a year to elevuate Cossa at the NHL level b4 commiting to a bigger contract for him. Which will be very important considering Augustines current trajectory. 

In the end, I do not forsee Cossa lasting as a wing for too long... he'll probably earn a 2-3 contract after next year, but he'll be trade bait at the end of that contract, cause it's going to be treyday sooner than anyone realizes. 

Augustine was shaky at the WJHC and is small for and NHL tendy. 

I think he's shipped out as part of a trade for a 1A/B center before he's exposed at the NHL level.

[kipwinger 8,732]

Daniel Sprong hit waivers today. I actually think this would be a good claim. He clearly didn't like Lalonde, but which player did? Snag him from waivers and then you can play him in Berggren's spot on the third line once you trade Berggren as part of a package for Cozens or whomever. I didn't hate Sprong's game last year, he's strong, fast, and can score. He's a poor man's Tarasenko but he's cheaper and better at this point.

Edited January 9 by kipwinger

[LeftWinger 5,090]

On 1/9/2025 at 10:02 AM, kipwinger said:

Daniel Sprong hit waivers today. I actually think this would be a good claim. He clearly didn't like Lalonde, but which player did? Snag him from waivers and then you can play him in Berggren's spot on the third line once you trade Berggren as part of a package for Cozens or whomever. I didn't hate Sprong's game last year, he's strong, fast, and can score. He's a poor man's T

Claim Sprong

to BUF : Rasmussen, Berggren, Tuomisto, 1st (protected)

to DET : Cozens (25% retained), 4th

and

to MTL : Veleno

to DET : Savard (50% retained), 2nd

Move Larkin to leftwing with Cozens and Raymond. Put DeBrincat with Kane and whichever center is playing the best.

 

 

Edited Monday at 03:34 PM by LeftWinger

[kipwinger 8,732]

That makes our center group WORSE, not better. I'm okay with moving Kasper to the wing in the short term (like how Larkin broke in on Zetterberg's wing) but what you have above doesn't blow my hair back. Ideally we'd be able to move on from one of Compher or Tarasenko in any trade scenario. But I'd like to see something like this:

Kasper-Larkin-Raymond

Debrincat-Cozens-Kane

Sprong-Copp-Berggren/Tarasenko

Ras-Veleno-Motte/Fischer

 

Edit: Were he not injured, I'd like Mazur as the other wing on the 4th line and not Motte/Fischer, but alas.

Edited January 9 by kipwinger

[stephen-gregory-yzerman 133]

Larkins a top 20 center overall and in FO%. He might transition to wing later in his career but hes far from that at this point.

Compher would have to be part of a Cozens trade. Both have similar production over the past 1.5 seasons. Cozens is 6 years younger and has potential to get back to 60-70pt C he was 2 seasons ago. Comphers $2m cheaper. Compher + mid prospect/high pick should get it done.

No thanks on Savard. Id rather go after Provorov or the dream scenario Nikishin.

[kipwinger 8,732]

55 minutes ago, stephen-gregory-yzerman said:

Larkins a top 20 center overall and in FO%. He might transition to wing later in his career but hes far from that at this point.

Compher would have to be part of a Cozens trade. Both have similar production over the past 1.5 seasons. Cozens is 6 years younger and has potential to get back to 60-70pt C he was 2 seasons ago. Comphers $2m cheaper. Compher + mid prospect/high pick should get it done.

No thanks on Savard. Id rather go after Provorov or the dream scenario Nikishin.

Buffalo might like Compher too as a veteran, and Cup winner, on a team that clearly lacks leadership.

[town123 218]

I just can't see Buffalo taking Compher's salary without sending a protected 1st and Ras minimum.   

[kipwinger 8,732]

50 minutes ago, town123 said:

I just can't see Buffalo taking Compher's salary without sending a protected 1st and Ras minimum.   

I agree, but there's a financial element to every trade as well. Sometimes you have to make the dollars work and you select players based on who is available in a given salary range. I'm sure Ras is a desirable player to them, he's a desirable player to us for the same reasons. I'd do Ras and a protected 1st though, unless you needed more salary going the other way to make the deal work, then it would have to be Compher or Copp (assuming they want a center in return to replace Cozens in the lineup).