3/17 GDT Wings @ Penguins (6:00pm EDT)

[Y19 2,488]

 

[Scott R Lucidi 675]

Let's go

[GMRwings1983 8,801]

Let's get this thread to four pages!

[13dangledangle 968]

It definitely feels different than it did going into yesterday.  But damn I’m not ready to see a loss yet, we need to go on a little bit of a heater here.  

[The 91 of Ryans 3,019]

7-3 penguins Ryan Whitney with the hatty

[Scott R Lucidi 675]

On NHL Network again?  I ***** hate Bettman 

[Y19 2,488]

Rayzor!  

Can't believe we're tied as one sided as this has been so far.  13-3 shots in favor of the Pens and camera always seems to be pointed to the right.

[TLGTrico 647]

Reimer needs to be the starter for now

[Y19 2,488]

Well, the score's looking more like the shot differential now.

[Rick D 371]

There are some good pokemkn go raids today, i might be done with this one already. 

[13dangledangle 968]

Im done with this also.  Perhaps check back in around the 3rd.  This damn team lol

[Scott R Lucidi 675]

Rasmussen is dog feces.  

[TLGTrico 647]

This is the team that lost seven straight.  They need to figure out how to deal with matchups on the road without Larkin 

[AtlantaHotWings 1,089]

Spent the day looking at wedding venues for son was PAINFUL

but I would rather be doing that more then watching this game

[kipwinger 8,670]

Nice assist by Rasmussen there. Tied with Raymond for most productive player on the team during this skid, in addition to being the best defensive forward we have. His line gets the toughest matchups of the night AND is scoring goals. Hard to ask more from Ras-Copp-Fischer.

[AtlantaHotWings 1,089]

And then Ras hits a pansy pen who falls down like a house of cards 

going to go watch something else 

[TLGTrico 647]

This team's reliance on Christian Fischer is sad

[Dabura 12,228]

I know no one wants to hear it, but if we can just hold on and be patient for another few years then we'll be able to roll Nate Danielson as our 4C and then we'll finally be ready to contend. But not a second before then. Look, we gotta be patient. This is not a playoff team. Yzerman told me so. And he's right. We gotta keep saying that the teams he assembles aren't good teams and that every year is not our year because the team is not good enough because Yzerman hasn't had enough draft picks and cap space to work with. We need to trust the Yzerplan. Brady Cleveland, we feel, is gonna be a player.

[Motor City Mullets 283]

Thanks to the NHL Network and work I didn’t have a chance watching the game, but it looks as though I didn’t miss much…Looks like another season out of the playoffs…We’re well underway in becoming a mediocre Minnesota Wild clone.

[AtlantaHotWings 1,089]

8 hours ago, Motor City Mullets said:

Thanks to the NHL Network and work I didn’t have a chance watching the game, but it looks as though I didn’t miss much…Looks like another season out of the playoffs…We’re well underway in becoming a mediocre Minnesota Wild clone.

beginning to think so and Isle lost so we could pulled a tic away and Caps are surging 2 games in hand 73 points 

 

[LeftWinger 5,065]

11 hours ago, Dabura said:

I know no one wants to hear it, but if we can just hold on and be patient for another few years then we'll be able to roll Nate Danielson as our 4C and then we'll finally be ready to contend. But not a second before then. Look, we gotta be patient. This is not a playoff team. Yzerman told me so. And he's right. We gotta keep saying that the teams he assembles aren't good teams and that every year is not our year because the team is not good enough because Yzerman hasn't had enough draft picks and cap space to work with. We need to trust the Yzerplan. Brady Cleveland, we feel, is gonna be a player.

If Danielson only becomes a 4C, then it's a waste of a top 10 pick. Waste of a 1st round pick. This is why Rasmussen and Veleno are busts. You don't draft bottom 6/3 talent in the 1st round. 

BOTH Danielson and Kasper better be top 6 when they are consistent NHL players. Edvinsson better be top 2-3. You just don't draft (keep these top picks) for them to be bottom anything.

Rasmussen has not earned his contract and Holland blew a #9 pick by drafting him. Not saying he sucks, but he's never played up to his draft position, will be a career 4th line player, and does not deserve the contract. At least Veleno was a #30 pick.

[kipwinger 8,670]

1 hour ago, LeftWinger said:

If Danielson only becomes a 4C, then it's a waste of a top 10 pick. Waste of a 1st round pick. This is why Rasmussen and Veleno are busts. You don't draft bottom 6/3 talent in the 1st round. 

BOTH Danielson and Kasper better be top 6 when they are consistent NHL players. Edvinsson better be top 2-3. You just don't draft (keep these top picks) for them to be bottom anything.

Rasmussen has not earned his contract and Holland blew a #9 pick by drafting him. Not saying he sucks, but he's never played up to his draft position, will be a career 4th line player, and does not deserve the contract. At least Veleno was a #30 pick.

Lefty...you're high. First, Rasmussen is roughly the tenth best player taken in that draft and we took him 9th. There was absolutely nothing wrong with that pick. Same for Veleno. Literally nobody "drafted for bottom 6/3 talent". It was hoped that Ras would be a top six player, and he isn't. That why he's only making 3 million bucks next year.  He's tied with Raymond for most points during this awful streak of ours, plays against top opposition, and kills penalties. He's a useful player that with middling offense. He's not Valeri Nichushkin and doens't get paid like it either.

You know who you maybe SHOULD point a finger at (aside from SY and Lalonde)? Guys like Alex Debrincat. This dude makes 7.8 million dollars a year and has FOUR even strength goals in his last 50 games. Andrew Copp makes 4X as much as Rasmussen and has the same number of points. JT Compher makes 5 million a year and has 4 points in his last 10 games. By comparison Joe Veleno has 3 points in the last 10 games and makes less than a million. Jake Walman gets top pair minutes is MINUS TEN during our losing streak and looks absolutely befuddled in the defensive zone (so much that he was scratched a few games ago).

If you're looking for problems with this team right now and your finger rests on Rasmussen and Veleno I seriously question your judgement. It absolutely doesn't mean that those guys are above criticism (Ras had a costly penalty yesterday) but overall those guys are more than earning their money and limited icetime. There are a WHOLE bunch of dudes on this team that are not earning either of those things right now.

[town123 212]

19 hours ago, The 91 of Ryans said:

7-3 penguins Ryan Whitney with the hatty

You called it pretty much bang on.    

 

Good on ya!

[GMRwings1983 8,801]

5 hours ago, LeftWinger said:

If Danielson only becomes a 4C, then it's a waste of a top 10 pick. Waste of a 1st round pick. This is why Rasmussen and Veleno are busts. You don't draft bottom 6/3 talent in the 1st round. 

BOTH Danielson and Kasper better be top 6 when they are consistent NHL players. Edvinsson better be top 2-3. You just don't draft (keep these top picks) for them to be bottom anything.

Rasmussen has not earned his contract and Holland blew a #9 pick by drafting him. Not saying he sucks, but he's never played up to his draft position, will be a career 4th line player, and does not deserve the contract. At least Veleno was a #30 pick.

Rasmussen is a "bottom", if you know what I mean.  A 6'6 bottom.    

[GMRwings1983 8,801]

3 hours ago, kipwinger said:

Lefty...you're high. First, Rasmussen is roughly the tenth best player taken in that draft and we took him 9th. There was absolutely nothing wrong with that pick. Same for Veleno. Literally nobody "drafted for bottom 6/3 talent". It was hoped that Ras would be a top six player, and he isn't. That why he's only making 3 million bucks next year.  He's tied with Raymond for most points during this awful streak of ours, plays against top opposition, and kills penalties. He's a useful player that with middling offense. He's not Valeri Nichushkin and doens't get paid like it either.

You know who you maybe SHOULD point a finger at (aside from SY and Lalonde)? Guys like Alex Debrincat. This dude makes 7.8 million dollars a year and has FOUR even strength goals in his last 50 games. Andrew Copp makes 4X as much as Rasmussen and has the same number of points. JT Compher makes 5 million a year and has 4 points in his last 10 games. By comparison Joe Veleno has 3 points in the last 10 games and makes less than a million. Jake Walman gets top pair minutes is MINUS TEN during our losing streak and looks absolutely befuddled in the defensive zone (so much that he was scratched a few games ago).

If you're looking for problems with this team right now and your finger rests on Rasmussen and Veleno I seriously question your judgement. It absolutely doesn't mean that those guys are above criticism (Ras had a costly penalty yesterday) but overall those guys are more than earning their money and limited icetime. There are a WHOLE bunch of dudes on this team that are not earning either of those things right now.

Compher and Copp have never been big scorers.  Their numbers this season aren't a big outlier.  I realize scoring is up in the NHL from several years ago.  So that's a counterpoint.  Debrincat is helpless without linemates.  Larkin being out hurt his scoring stats.  He doesn't score even strength because he's small, soft, and overly reliant on powerplay scoring.  Just like this entire roster.  The powerplay is their offense.