Scott R Lucidi 615 Report post Posted August 14 15 minutes ago, town123 said: They accepted the offer sheets ah, does that mean that other teams cannot out bid them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,579 Report post Posted August 14 24 minutes ago, Scott R Lucidi said: ah, does that mean that other teams cannot out bid them? It means that the price is set. Either Edmonton matches or St. Louis gets them at the contract that was accepted in the offer sheet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13dangledangle 968 Report post Posted August 14 Ive been listening to a few podcasts who all say Nate making it out of camp to be our 2C is a legit thing. I would love if this happened, also makes line 3 more of a threat at the same time because I love JT & Copp together. Then Nate with Kane and Tarasenko? Yes please. A kid and 2 old goats line Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,023 Report post Posted August 14 I'm not liking the dog days of this Yzerplan offseason. There's players available via trade, we need to upgrade and trim fat! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TLGTrico 637 Report post Posted August 15 5 hours ago, 13dangledangle said: Ive been listening to a few podcasts who all say Nate making it out of camp to be our 2C is a legit thing. I would love if this happened, also makes line 3 more of a threat at the same time because I love JT & Copp together. Then Nate with Kane and Tarasenko? Yes please. A kid and 2 old goats line Definitely don't like the idea of having a near 15 million dollar third line Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott R Lucidi 615 Report post Posted August 15 2 minutes ago, TLGTrico said: Definitely don't like the idea of having a near 15 million dollar third line The SCAM is failing us Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13dangledangle 968 Report post Posted August 15 54 minutes ago, TLGTrico said: Definitely don't like the idea of having a near 15 million dollar third line The moneys spent, that would Ice the best squad possible in my opinion. Thats what’s important 3 Rick D, AtlantaHotWings and Motor City Mullets reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,023 Report post Posted August 15 acquire Ekblad, trade Holl and Husso for chicken coupons. Seider is comparable to Faber. If he gets more than $8.5M, it's a travesty. I'm tired of all the dilly dally. Seider 8x$8.5M Raymond 8x$7.5M trim fat after that and upgrade the D! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,023 Report post Posted August 15 Make the lines and pairings however you want. Here is the opening night roster. When we're in the playoffs come TDL, acquire Trouba (50% retained) (if his wife is done) and here we go! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TLGTrico 637 Report post Posted August 15 2 hours ago, LeftWinger said: Make the lines and pairings however you want. Here is the opening night roster. When we're in the playoffs come TDL, acquire Trouba (50% retained) (if his wife is done) and here we go! If Danielson isn't playing in the top nine, he should be in Grand rapids Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,023 Report post Posted August 16 3 hours ago, TLGTrico said: If Danielson isn't playing in the top nine, he should be in Grand rapids That's why I said make the lines and pairings however you want. I just threw it all together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,023 Report post Posted August 27 (edited) So rumor has it Raymond and Wings are nowhere close on the money on a contract... I have no patience for a greedy player. Nor a need. Edited August 27 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott R Lucidi 615 Report post Posted August 27 22 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: So rumor has it Raymond and Wings are nowhere close on the money on a contract... I have no patience for a greedy player. Nor a need. you don't even know what the contract offers/demands are. If Raymond is asking for 8 years/6 million per, so you think he's being greedy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
town123 196 Report post Posted August 27 Hoping RayRay signs soon as well as Seider. I can't imagine a world where someone offersheets Lucas for 8.5M per and we don't match. Chuck the 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Now think about SY saying NO to paying Raymond his asking price and he's a FA next offseason.... yikes 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmybigrigs69 229 Report post Posted August 27 The temp on #LucasPaymond2024 is cooling off. Kid thinks his name McPaymond or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,579 Report post Posted August 28 This is all just made-up media narrative because it's a slow time of year. Raymond and Seider both want to be Red Wings and they're both going to get PAID. You think it's an accident that we have just enough cap space to give them both 8.5 million dollar contracts if it comes to that? SY has a history of driving a hard bargain on contracts and this is no different. If Kyle Dubas was the GM they'd already be signed, but thankfully Yzerman uses his leverage a little bit better and gets his guys on good contracts instead of handing them the bag. Both these guys will be signed by training camp, you can bet on it. 2 13dangledangle and Scott R Lucidi reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmybigrigs69 229 Report post Posted August 28 2 hours ago, kipwinger said: This is all just made-up media narrative because it's a slow time of year. Raymond and Seider both want to be Red Wings and they're both going to get PAID. You think it's an accident that we have just enough cap space to give them both 8.5 million dollar contracts if it comes to that? SY has a history of driving a hard bargain on contracts and this is no different. If Kyle Dubas was the GM they'd already be signed, but thankfully Yzerman uses his leverage a little bit better and gets his guys on good contracts instead of handing them the bag. Both these guys will be signed by training camp, you can bet on it. Update from Paymond and his agent on the ongoing contract negotiation: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,023 Report post Posted August 28 (edited) 22 hours ago, Scott R Lucidi said: you don't even know what the contract offers/demands are. If Raymond is asking for 8 years/6 million per, so you think he's being greedy? Also angry at Yzerman. He's backed himself into a corner. He needs to trim fat today. Just freaking send Husso to Vancouver for a low pick, send Holl to Edmonton for futures. He doesn't have enough cap space to sign all three RFA's and stay under the cap. He also gave Veleno and Rasmussen TOO MUCH money. Trade Maatta as well. Go with Seider, Edvinsson and Johansson in their places. But there has to be a middle ground with players and management. Raymond knows what cap they are dealing with, so does Seider, plus Yzerman knows the players he needs to have on this team. Dump the players you don't need(the ones mentioned above.) Do a team friendly 2-year deal, or even 1 and get paid next off season when we lose a few contracts. I am angry because neither side is coming to an agreement. You do not need, nor will you suffer from getting rid of Husso, Holl, or Maatta. This is truly becoming a Yzerfail because of where he has put himself with other players contracts. Edited August 28 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott R Lucidi 615 Report post Posted August 28 44 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: Also angry at Yzerman. He's backed himself into a corner. He needs to trim fat today. Just freaking send Husso to Vancouver for a low pick, send Holl to Edmonton for futures. He doesn't have enough cap space to sign all three RFA's and stay under the cap. He also gave Veleno and Rasmussen TOO MUCH money. Trade Maatta as well. Go with Seider, Edvinsson and Johansson in their places. But there has to be a middle ground with players and management. Raymond knows what cap they are dealing with, so does Seider, plus Yzerman knows the players he needs to have on this team. Dump the players you don't need(the ones mentioned above.) Do a team friendly 2-year deal, or even 1 and get paid next off season when we lose a few contracts. I am angry because neither side is coming to an agreement. You do not need, nor will you suffer from getting rid of Husso, Holl, or Maatta. This is truly becoming a Yzerfail because of where he has put himself with other players contracts. The Chiarot and Petry deals are tremendous eye sores for the Wings right now. The SCAM is making really poor choices atm. Broberg, Edvinsson, Johansson, ASP @ 8 mil. OR Chiarot, Petry, Lagesson, Gustafsson @ 11 mil. He could have made trades with EDM to help them save face, too. Same bullshet as Holland. The SCAM is a chickenshet fraud. Works 3 days a year and coasts the rest. I DON'T trust the Yzerplan at the moment. The Red Wings are one knee injury away from needing to completely restart this rebuild. It happened in the past. Do we all think we can just avoid injuries forever now? I dont. 2 LeftWinger and Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Motor City Mullets 263 Report post Posted August 28 You 2 need to get a room. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,023 Report post Posted August 29 (edited) Ok, bear with this. I made some moves and gave the 2 Big Guys more money. Signed both Seider and Raymond to 8x$9M deals. Signed Berggren 3x$1.25M Vancouver is in need of a Goalie with Demko's injury, we are in need of cap relief, so I dealt Husso to them for a 4th round pick. Edmonton is in need of a RHD, again to relieve cap I sent them Holl for a 6th in 2025. Florida wants cap space, wants a player with familiarity, I traded them Chiarot and a 3rd for Ekblad. We needed a 13th forward and I didn't want to call up any of our kids to just sit most the season, so I signed UFA Liam Kirk to a 2 year $875k deal to be the rotating guy. He did pretty good in Chechia last season. Plus, he is still young and can be a help to GR when other players start coming up. Give or take Kirk, no big deal, I just didn't want to bring up Danielson or Nygaard to be the 13th forward, plus we still have over $2M available in cap. Also, I know $5.6M is a lot to have on your 4th line, but I was just going with that 3-some because of the chemistry they had last season before Ras went out. Change the lines however you feel and if you would rather have one of our kids up instead of Kirk, that's cool too. Edited August 29 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Motor City Mullets 263 Report post Posted August 29 (edited) I'll $hit my pants if either makes more $$$ aav than Larkin (especially Raymond) with this upcoming contract...That said I could see both making more after a 3 year bridge and signing long term for a higher aav. Either way both will be in camp in a few weeks. Edited August 29 by Motor City Mullets Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,023 Report post Posted August 30 Didn't want to make a thread. Johnny Gaudreau and his brother Matthew have been killed in an apparent biking accident. #RIP 2 Rick D and kliq reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axl Foley 303 Report post Posted August 30 On 8/28/2024 at 2:16 PM, LeftWinger said: Also angry at Yzerman. He's backed himself into a corner. He needs to trim fat today. Just freaking send Husso to Vancouver for a low pick, send Holl to Edmonton for futures. He doesn't have enough cap space to sign all three RFA's and stay under the cap. He also gave Veleno and Rasmussen TOO MUCH money. Trade Maatta as well. Go with Seider, Edvinsson and Johansson in their places. But there has to be a middle ground with players and management. Raymond knows what cap they are dealing with, so does Seider, plus Yzerman knows the players he needs to have on this team. Dump the players you don't need(the ones mentioned above.) Do a team friendly 2-year deal, or even 1 and get paid next off season when we lose a few contracts. I am angry because neither side is coming to an agreement. You do not need, nor will you suffer from getting rid of Husso, Holl, or Maatta. This is truly becoming a Yzerfail because of where he has put himself with other players contracts. Cap space has nothing to do with how much Yzerman is willing to pay. He would not pay more even if they had 30 million in cap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
town123 196 Report post Posted August 31 Welp. Seth Jarvis just got 8/63.2M with a 29M signing bonus. How do you think that will affect Raymond and Seider's upcoming deals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
