2024 Offseason Thread

[Jimmybigrigs69 301]

Yall highly underestimate how much we like our team

[LeftWinger 5,065]

I grow tired of seeing $17.65M in cap space available everytime I click on PuckPedia.

Plus, Vancouver still needs a goalie. We could clear some cap and upgrade our D. Anaheim shopping Fowler. They don't need cap relief, they need the roster spot. If we could acquire Cam at a 50% retained, that would be an upgrade. 

[mackel 735]

7 hours ago, LeftWinger said:

I grow tired of seeing $17.65M in cap space available everytime I click on PuckPedia.

Plus, Vancouver still needs a goalie. We could clear some cap and upgrade our D. Anaheim shopping Fowler. They don't need cap relief, they need the roster spot. If we could acquire Cam at a 50% retained, that would be an upgrade. 

The longer we dick around with those contracts the less likely anything else is.

[diehardredwingsfan58 157]

Yzerman needs to get his head out of his a^^, And get Raymond and Seider signed. He's had basically 5 months to get at least one of them signed.

[Scott R Lucidi 675]

The SCAM is not doing well

[AtlantaHotWings 1,089]

9 hours ago, Scott R Lucidi said:

The SCAM is not doing well

Takes two to dance and perhaps the agents are pushing for more $$ and Yzerguy is saying "where are you expecting me to get it from?" Or Yzerguy is saying I won't budge on $$ but will give more term and agent says "thats ignorant" 

Nervous ....yes 

Willing to march with pitchforks to Red Wings Offices ...not quite yet

 

[Scott R Lucidi 675]

2 hours ago, AtlantaHotWings said:

Takes two to dance and perhaps the agents are pushing for more $$ and Yzerguy is saying "where are you expecting me to get it from?" Or Yzerguy is saying I won't budge on $$ but will give more term and agent says "thats ignorant" 

Nervous ....yes 

Willing to march with pitchforks to Red Wings Offices ...not quite yet

 

The SCAM is trying to lowball the 2 best players on the team.  He has completely botched up the order of operations.  He should have had deals done before the end of last season BEFORE he drafted and signed UFAs.  Taking care of foreigners before your domestic talent is STUPID.  Raymond and Seider are each worth 9.25 million a season.  He's trying to convince their agents that they're worth less and need more seasons under their belt.  Nope.  Seider is no worse than Darnell Nurse and Raymond is no worse than William Nylander.  All of us would be hesitant to make one of those straight up trades if you asked us.  The SCAM has 17.5 mil to get 3 players signed and he needs 21.  Simple as that.  He's trying to do his stars wrong.  That sucks.

[Motor City Mullets 283]

4 hours ago, Scott R Lucidi said:

The SCAM is trying to lowball the 2 best players on the team.  He has completely botched up the order of operations.  He should have had deals done before the end of last season BEFORE he drafted and signed UFAs.  Taking care of foreigners before your domestic talent is STUPID.  Raymond and Seider are each worth 9.25 million a season.  He's trying to convince their agents that they're worth less and need more seasons under their belt.  Nope.  Seider is no worse than Darnell Nurse and Raymond is no worse than William Nylander.  All of us would be hesitant to make one of those straight up trades if you asked us.  The SCAM has 17.5 mil to get 3 players signed and he needs 21.  Simple as that.  He's trying to do his stars wrong.  That sucks.

Any idea how much that 'lowball offer' is?

Keep in mind...This is Seider's agent...

7 hours ago, AtlantaHotWings said:

Takes two to dance and perhaps the agents are pushing for more $$ and Yzerguy is saying "where are you expecting me to get it from?" Or Yzerguy is saying I won't budge on $$ but will give more term and agent says "thats ignorant" 

Nervous ....yes 

Willing to march with pitchforks to Red Wings Offices ...not quite yet

 

Scott would make a fine Padawan for Jedi Master Dubas...

[LeftWinger 5,065]

Well Berggren came cheaper than expected. Looks like a "prove it" contract. Still leaves over $16M for the two big guys. Let's hope we can get some deals done. 

Edited September 16 by LeftWinger

[LeftWinger 5,065]

I still say dump Husso and Holl or Maatta for whatever pick you can get and go acquire Fowler. He's expanded his 4 team approved trade list and yes, Detroit is on it. Anahein does not need cap space, they could retain 50% and get some nice prospects, picks for their future. Wallinder, Soderblom? 2nd round pick?

Edited September 16 by LeftWinger

[LeftWinger 5,065]

Here's my team with Fowler and everyone signed. (Traded Husso to Vancouver and Maatta to San Jose) then traded a 2nd, Wallinder and Soderblom to Anaheim for Fowler at 50% retained. Still room for one more forward and over $4M in cap remains.

[mackel 735]

I'd be shocked if Seider gets less than 9.5 per on an 8 year term.

[Scott R Lucidi 675]

1 hour ago, mackel said:

I'd be shocked if Seider gets less than 9.5 per on an 8 year term.

Yah,

I'm reading some stupid articles about his "comparables".  Sorry, but his comparables are not 30 point defensemen that play alongside the team's 1A defenseman.  His comparables are other teams' 1A defensemen.  Is he Rasmus Dahlin?  No.  Is he the next best thing, and could he be better than Rasmus Dahlin if they'd stop pairing him with scrubs?  Absolutely.  Seider is WORTH somewhere between 9.5 million and 10.5 million.  If the SCAM thinks he's going to get him for 8.5 because Larkin makes 8.7, then the SCAM is dead wrong.  He possibly could have had him at somewhere between 8 and 9 had he redone his contract during the season last year.  But he completely BLEW that one.  Now Seider and Raymond have the SCAM by the balls.  He's got to pony up and get rid of some guys so this whole thing shakes out.  Bad General Management.  

[LeftWinger 5,065]

[LeftWinger 5,065]

Seider tonight or tomorrow. You read it here on LGRW!

[Scott R Lucidi 675]

34 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

Theft.  SCAM scores.

[Axl Foley 320]

On 9/11/2024 at 1:07 PM, LeftWinger said:

I grow tired of seeing $17.65M in cap space available everytime I click on PuckPedia.

Plus, Vancouver still needs a goalie. We could clear some cap and upgrade our D. Anaheim shopping Fowler. They don't need cap relief, they need the roster spot. If we could acquire Cam at a 50% retained, that would be an upgrade. 

And makes 9D on the roster. Not happening.

On 9/12/2024 at 3:03 PM, Motor City Mullets said:

Any idea how much that 'lowball offer' is?

Keep in mind...This is Seider's agent...

Scott would make a fine Padawan for Jedi Master Dubas...

Just bring in McCarty for negotiations. Problem solved.

[LeftWinger 5,065]

8 hours ago, Axl Foley said:

And makes 9D on the roster. Not happening.

Yet they were interested in Trouba. I know the talk was Holl going back, but thar was so they could buyout a cheaper contract. Anaheim has plenty of cap and could waive a D-man that may be involved or Yzerman could find a trade partner for one of the extra D, or waive one to GR. Fowler would be our top pairing LHD if acquired.

[Scott R Lucidi 675]

4 hours ago, LeftWinger said:

Yet they were interested in Trouba. I know the talk was Holl going back, but thar was so they could buyout a cheaper contract. Anaheim has plenty of cap and could waive a D-man that may be involved or Yzerman could find a trade partner for one of the extra D, or waive one to GR. Fowler would be our top pairing LHD if acquired.

Problem is we just throw another roadblock in the way.  We have 4 defensemen we don't need right now in Lagesson, Chiarot, Petry, Gustafsson, and Holl.  We need spots for Edvinsson, Johansson, ASP, Wallinder, and Tuomisto.  The SCAM has our young D corp on the Holland plan of not playing until their 2 years past the point they should have entered the NHL.

[Motor City Mullets 283]

15 hours ago, Scott R Lucidi said:

Theft.  SCAM scores.

And all along you were doubting Grand Master Y/Rabbi Saul Goyzerman/Stevie Y...

[kipwinger 8,671]

I'm loving the new Raymond contract. I expect Seider signs for somewhere just south of Larkin...something like 8.5-8.6 million per year. If we can have Raymond, Seider, and Larkin signed long term for under 30 million collectively we're in a really good position to go big game hunting in free agency over the next couple years. Huge win for us with this contract.

[stephen-gregory-yzerman 129]

16 minutes ago, kipwinger said:

I'm loving the new Raymond contract. I expect Seider signs for somewhere just south of Larkin...something like 8.5-8.6 million per year. If we can have Raymond, Seider, and Larkin signed long term for under 30 million collectively we're in a really good position to go big game hunting in free agency over the next couple years. Huge win for us with this contract.

All 3 combined are likely to be under $25.5m. Yzerman making a lot of dumb people look real dumb right about now. Negotiations are a grind and theres no gm Id trust more then Stevie when it comes to rfas. ufas are another story but even those contracts shouldnt hinder the team longterm. Wings are in real good shape going forward thanks to the man with the plan.

[LeftWinger 5,065]

2 hours ago, Scott R Lucidi said:

Problem is we just throw another roadblock in the way.  We have 4 defensemen we don't need right now in Lagesson, Chiarot, Petry, Gustafsson, and Holl.  We need spots for Edvinsson, Johansson, ASP, Wallinder, and Tuomisto.  The SCAM has our young D corp on the Holland plan of not playing until their 2 years past the point they should have entered the NHL.

Edvinsson (if he earns it) and Johansson will be on the roster. If Wings acquire Fowler, Lagesson will be in GR (he's probably going there anyhow) and Petry can rotate in and out with Holl. Fowler has 2 years left, but next year Petry, Maatta, and Lagesson will all be expired. Which will open up 2 more spots.

2025-26?

Fowler - Seider

Edvinsson - ASP

Johansson - Gustafsson

Chiarot - Holl (if either are still here after TDL or Buyouts)

This TDL, if Trouba's wife's residency is done by then, he will be traded to Detroit. I do think Yzerman is desperate to make the playoffs this season, the only kids that will be in Detroit are the ones he cannot waive, or in Edvisson's case, he earns a spot. Next 2 years is when we'll see the influx of kids.

Edited September 17 by LeftWinger

[Motor City Mullets 283]

35 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

Edvinsson (if he earns it) and Johansson will be on the roster. If Wings acquire Fowler, Lagesson will be in GR (he's probably going there anyhow) and Petry can rotate in and out with Holl. Fowler has 2 years left, but next year Petry, Maatta, and Lagesson will all be expired. Which will open up 2 more spots.

2025-26?

Fowler - Seider

Edvinsson - ASP

Johansson - Gustafsson

Chiarot - Holl (if either are still here after TDL or Buyouts)

This TDL, if Trouba's wife's residency is done by then, he will be traded to Detroit. I do think Yzerman is desperate to make the playoffs this season, the only kids that will be in Detroit are the ones he cannot waive, or in Edvisson's case, he earns a spot. Next 2 years is when we'll see the influx of kids.

I honestly doubt Yzerman would want Trouba...If he didn't want to come to Detroit 2 months ago - well it was nice knowing ya!

[LeftWinger 5,065]

2 hours ago, Motor City Mullets said:

I honestly doubt Yzerman would want Trouba...If he didn't want to come to Detroit 2 months ago - well it was nice knowing ya!

I'm thinking if it was because of his wife, then he would've exercised his clause anywhere he could.