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diehardredwingsfan58 157 Report post Posted June 21, 2023 On his latest 32 thoughts, Friedman is saying that Yzerman is now going after Travis Konecny. He fills most of the boxes that Yzerman is seeking. Pretty sure that Alex Debrincat to Detroit is dead now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 1,089 Report post Posted June 21, 2023 1 minute ago, diehardredwingsfan58 said: On his latest 32 thoughts, Friedman is saying that Yzerman is now going after Travis Konecny. He fills most of the boxes that Yzerman is seeking. Pretty sure that Alex Debrincat to Detroit is dead now. https://www.phillyvoice.com/travis-konecny-flyers-trade-rumors-red-wings-steve-yzerman-danny-briere-nhl-draft/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bIueadams 776 Report post Posted June 21, 2023 1 minute ago, diehardredwingsfan58 said: On his latest 32 thoughts, Friedman is saying that Yzerman is now going after Travis Konecny. He fills most of the boxes that Yzerman is seeking. Pretty sure that Alex Debrincat to Detroit is dead now. Whats the low down on konecny idk even kno who dat be Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 1,089 Report post Posted June 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, bIueadams said: Whats the low down on konecny idk even kno who dat be had to look also so happy to share https://www.nhl.com/player/travis-konecny-8478439 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,065 Report post Posted June 21, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, AtlantaHotWings said: https://www.phillyvoice.com/travis-konecny-flyers-trade-rumors-red-wings-steve-yzerman-danny-briere-nhl-draft/ Is he worth the #17? PLUS more? If so, let's do it! Philly rebuilding, send them Zadina as well! (yes, I am always trying to get rid of him! Although dumping him won't bring us Hughes or Bouchard back to within our reach.) Says they're listening to offers for Hart as well. Hmmmm... package deal? Konecny and Hart? At what price? Edited June 21, 2023 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,065 Report post Posted June 21, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, diehardredwingsfan58 said: On his latest 32 thoughts, Friedman is saying that Yzerman is now going after Travis Konecny. He fills most of the boxes that Yzerman is seeking. Pretty sure that Alex Debrincat to Detroit is dead now. It's ok, he'll just take his arbitration award and sign with us UFA next July. I bet Ottawa was asking for a King's ransom from us, being inner-divisional. Edited June 21, 2023 by LeftWinger 1 town123 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,675 Report post Posted June 21, 2023 I'd rather have Konecny than Debrincat. He's a slightly less offensively talented winger, but only marginally. Conversely, he's marginally more "gritty" than Debrincat. But also he's under contract for two more years @ 5.5 million. 3 AtlantaHotWings, F.Michael and Jonas Mahonas reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted June 21, 2023 1 minute ago, kipwinger said: I'd rather have Konecny than Debrincat. He's a slightly less offensively talented winger, but only marginally. Conversely, he's marginally more "gritty" than Debrincat. But also he's under contract for two more years @ 5.5 million. And he also plays goal line to goal line. This news made my day. Sick of hearing about Debrincat's demands and lists of places he'll play. The owners should all get togethet and collectively blacklist that guy. He hasnt done S H I T yet in his career, and he thinks he's Wayne Grestky. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,675 Report post Posted June 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said: And he also plays goal line to goal line. This news made my day. Sick of hearing about Debrincat's demands and lists of places he'll play. The owners should all get togethet and collectively blacklist that guy. He hasnt done S H I T yet in his career, and he thinks he's Wayne Grestky. That's pretty histrionic my man. First, he's not making demands. He's simply said he won't re-sign in Ottawa, so it's in their best interest to trade him. He's not missing training cap because he's holding out. And he's not Eric Lindros. Second, he does play "goal line to goal line". His defensive metrics grade out quite well for a smallish scorer. Maybe not better than Konecny, but he's definitely not Jakub Vrana either. You pay WAY too much attention to plus/minus. Every single regular on Ottawa's team was a minus player this year. So what? That's more indicative of a bad team than a bad player. Two years ago Larkin was -18 and he's one of the better defensive centers in the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,831 Report post Posted June 21, 2023 Konecny is 5’10 and was -13 this season and -23 last season. Pass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bIueadams 776 Report post Posted June 21, 2023 Just now, Akakabuto said: Konecny is 5’10 and was -13 this season and -23 last season. Pass. We dont need minus players Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,831 Report post Posted June 21, 2023 1 minute ago, bIueadams said: We dont need minus players Absolutely not Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axl Foley 320 Report post Posted June 21, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, LeftWinger said: Is he worth the #17? PLUS more? If so, let's do it! Philly rebuilding, send them Zadina as well! (yes, I am always trying to get rid of him! Although dumping him won't bring us Hughes or Bouchard back to within our reach.) Says they're listening to offers for Hart as well. Hmmmm... package deal? Konecny and Hart? At what price? Why are you again after a high priced, unnecessary goalie? We have Husso, who is at least fine for now, and Cossa in a few seasons. Unless either of those 2 don't play well enough, there is zero reason to blow cap space on another goalie. Either way, that problem is at least 2 seasons down the road. 29 minutes ago, Akakabuto said: Konecny is 5’10 and was -13 this season and -23 last season. Pass. Philly 1 hour ago, Jonas Mahonas said: And he also plays goal line to goal line. This news made my day. Sick of hearing about Debrincat's demands and lists of places he'll play. The owners should all get togethet and collectively blacklist that guy. He hasnt done S H I T yet in his career, and he thinks he's Wayne Grestky. What? He has put together quite a few good seasons, and has every right to use what leverage he has. Edited June 21, 2023 by Axl Foley Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,675 Report post Posted June 21, 2023 Whether it's Debrincat or Konecny we really shouldn't spend many assets on wingers right now IMO. The reality is that this team is going nowhere until we have a 2C that can carry a line against top competition. NOBODY is game planning for a 2nd line centered by Andrew Copp. It's a testament to just how good Dylan Larkin is that he still produces near a point per game despite the fact that whatever line he's centering is the only line that can score. He is keyed on as much as any player in the league and he's still very good. But without someone else he's sunk, with or without any Debrincat or Konecny types. This has been a glaring weakness with this team for a decade and continues to be. It's good that we drafted Kasper, and I'm hopeful, but the range of outcomes for him could be Phillip Danault to Pierre Luc Dubois to anywhere in between. It doesn't matter who we sign or draft if we don't have a quality 2C we're not taking the next step. 2 Akakabuto and town123 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 1,089 Report post Posted June 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, Axl Foley said: Why are you again after a high priced, unnecessary goalie? We have Husso, who is at least fine for now, and Cossa in a few seasons. Unless either of those 2 don't play well enough, there is zero reason to blow cap space on another goalie. Either way, that problem is at least 2 seasons down the road. Philly What? He has put together quite a few good seasons, and has every right to use what leverage he has. Limited time to make bank while you can!!! They are always one career ending injury from being a greeter at Walmart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,831 Report post Posted June 21, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Axl Foley said: Philly Edited June 21, 2023 by Akakabuto Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bIueadams 776 Report post Posted June 21, 2023 While were dunking on minus R-slurs, its worth mentioning that AA is on pace to become the all time most minus player Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diehardredwingsfan58 157 Report post Posted June 21, 2023 2 hours ago, bIueadams said: Whats the low down on konecny idk even kno who dat be One of the better wingers in Philly, 5'10" Right Handed Winger which we need. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bIueadams 776 Report post Posted June 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, diehardredwingsfan58 said: One of the better wingers in Philly, 5'10" Right Handed Winger which we need. Is he minus? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted June 21, 2023 2 hours ago, bIueadams said: While were dunking on minus R-slurs, its worth mentioning that AA is on pace to become the all time most minus player UNTIL he starts to center Bedard. Then it's PLUS CITY for the kid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,065 Report post Posted June 22, 2023 14 hours ago, Axl Foley said: Why are you again after a high priced, unnecessary goalie? We have Husso, who is at least fine for now, and Cossa in a few seasons. Unless either of those 2 don't play well enough, there is zero reason to blow cap space on another goalie. Either way, that problem is at least 2 seasons down the road. We need a 2nd goalie. Have you seen what's available via UFA? Ned isn't coming back. A trade will need to happen or we'll have Husso and an AHL quality goalie. That won't fly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,019 Report post Posted June 22, 2023 1 hour ago, LeftWinger said: We need a 2nd goalie. Have you seen what's available via UFA? Ned isn't coming back. A trade will need to happen or we'll have Husso and an AHL quality goalie. That won't fly. Yzerman has stated that they have been spending a lot of time trying to figure out what to do about Ned and Magnus. So they aren't necessarily gone yet. 1 LeftWinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,675 Report post Posted June 22, 2023 2 hours ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Yzerman has stated that they have been spending a lot of time trying to figure out what to do about Ned and Magnus. So they aren't necessarily gone yet. That's code for "we're hedging our bets because the goalie market is thin". He'll bring one or the other back on a short term deal if he can't land one of the few marginally better options in FA. I'd be bummed to see either of them in net next season but we may not have many other options. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites