Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted August 18, 2023 1 hour ago, LeftWinger said: Good! That means Ottawa can have a mid-20's pick this year and we'll keep our Mid-teens. Yah, I'm not against full tank mode this year, tbh. I'd like to go into one more draft with a top 10 pick and some good 2nd rounders. The draft picks we have just aren't ready yet, I guess. I was hoping Edvinsson, Kasper, Wallinder, and Johansson would be killing it in 23-24 when we were talking about them at Kasper's draft. Seems like they're all going to be in Grand Rapids for 2 more years now. YUK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 737 Report post Posted August 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said: Yah, I'm not against full tank mode this year, tbh. I'd like to go into one more draft with a top 10 pick and some good 2nd rounders. The draft picks we have just aren't ready yet, I guess. I was hoping Edvinsson, Kasper, Wallinder, and Johansson would be killing it in 23-24 when we were talking about them at Kasper's draft. Seems like they're all going to be in Grand Rapids for 2 more years now. YUK. Unless these guys all hit, we'll peak as a wildcard team and be blowing it up by 2028. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted August 19, 2023 3 hours ago, mackel said: Unless these guys all hit, we'll peak as a wildcard team and be blowing it up by 2028. yah, i see that as likely. this isnt a good sign that Yzerman signed 5 stop gap vet dmen ovee the last 2 years. Thats NHL experience we need our draft picks to get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bIueadams 776 Report post Posted August 19, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, mackel said: Unless these guys all hit, we'll peak as a wildcard team and be blowing it up by 2028. I would say the team currently has 5 pillars: Seider, Larkin, and Debrincat, and to a lesser extent Raymond and Husso. And of course Raymond could very soon develop into a major pillar like the first three. Husso is likely to remain a Howard level goalie, but he is still very good and reliable. A Prospects (obvious future pillars of the team) - 2 C and 2 D Edvinsson Kasper Danielson Sandin-Pellika B Prospects (Almost guaranteed to make the team, but who knows what impact they will make) - 1 C, 1 W, 1 D, 1 G Cossa Lombardi Mazur Wallinder Soderblom C Prospects (Not guaranteed to make the team, but show serious promise & upside) - 1 C, 3 W, 5 D, 1 G Buchnelikov Anton Johansson Albert Johansson Buium Hanas Noah Dower-Nilsson Augustine Gibson Cleveland James D Prospects (Wild cards, long shots to make the team) - 3 F, 3 D, 1 G Ali Savage Viro Tuomisto McIsaac Doucet Gylander F Prospects (No chance to make the team) - Who cares Plandowski Niederbach Stange Bednar Aucoin Draper Bradley Moore O'Reilly Liam Dower-Nilsson Anyone I didn't include I believe it's too early to draw conclusions on. All the A & B prospects are going to make the team at some point. 30- 50% of the C prospects will make the team. Maybe 1 D prospect will make the team. Zero F prospects will make the team. Our future team looks better than a wild card I'd say. Debrincat - Larkin - Raymond Soderblom - Kasper - Mazur ________ - Danielson -______ ________ - Lombardi - ______ Edvinsson - Seider Wallinder - Sandin-Pellika _______ - ________ Cossa Husso And this doesn't even include many of our young depth players like Ras and Berggren and Sprong and Kostin, etc. 4 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said: yah, i see that as likely. this isnt a good sign that Yzerman signed 5 stop gap vet dmen ovee the last 2 years. Thats NHL experience we need our draft picks to get. Blah blah Im impatient blah blah im an R slur blah blah play players before theyre ready Edited August 19, 2023 by bIueadams Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted August 19, 2023 6 hours ago, bIueadams said: I would say the team currently has 5 pillars: Seider, Larkin, and Debrincat, and to a lesser extent Raymond and Husso. And of course Raymond could very soon develop into a major pillar like the first three. Husso is likely to remain a Howard level goalie, but he is still very good and reliable. A Prospects (obvious future pillars of the team) - 2 C and 2 D Edvinsson Kasper Danielson Sandin-Pellika B Prospects (Almost guaranteed to make the team, but who knows what impact they will make) - 1 C, 1 W, 1 D, 1 G Cossa Lombardi Mazur Wallinder Soderblom C Prospects (Not guaranteed to make the team, but show serious promise & upside) - 1 C, 3 W, 5 D, 1 G Buchnelikov Anton Johansson Albert Johansson Buium Hanas Noah Dower-Nilsson Augustine Gibson Cleveland James D Prospects (Wild cards, long shots to make the team) - 3 F, 3 D, 1 G Ali Savage Viro Tuomisto McIsaac Doucet Gylander F Prospects (No chance to make the team) - Who cares Plandowski Niederbach Stange Bednar Aucoin Draper Bradley Moore O'Reilly Liam Dower-Nilsson Anyone I didn't include I believe it's too early to draw conclusions on. All the A & B prospects are going to make the team at some point. 30- 50% of the C prospects will make the team. Maybe 1 D prospect will make the team. Zero F prospects will make the team. Our future team looks better than a wild card I'd say. Debrincat - Larkin - Raymond Soderblom - Kasper - Mazur ________ - Danielson -______ ________ - Lombardi - ______ Edvinsson - Seider Wallinder - Sandin-Pellika _______ - ________ Cossa Husso And this doesn't even include many of our young depth players like Ras and Berggren and Sprong and Kostin, etc. Blah blah Im impatient blah blah im an R slur blah blah play players before theyre ready been watching us suck too long Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 737 Report post Posted August 20, 2023 Fans ALWAYS over value prospects... its the homer beer goggles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TLGTrico 647 Report post Posted August 20, 2023 So Seider didn't make NHL network's top 20 defensemen this year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted August 20, 2023 27 minutes ago, TLGTrico said: So Seider didn't make NHL network's top 20 defensemen this year Thats a joke. He's top 5. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bIueadams 776 Report post Posted August 21, 2023 3 hours ago, TLGTrico said: So Seider didn't make NHL network's top 20 defensemen this year His half season with Chiarot really killed his point totals this year. That's what these buffoons really care about, and that's why Mo didn't make the list. Had Mo stayed with Walman all season his pts per games played would have had him seated among the top 20-35 Dmen. Oh well. Thanks LOLonde. Lets look at his other stats though #32 in TOI per game #25 in PK time #11 in hits #5 in blocks #43 in shots I think he's going to crest 60 pts this year playing with a better overall team, and with Walman and Ghostbear as his partners. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted August 21, 2023 26 minutes ago, bIueadams said: His half season with Chiarot really killed his point totals this year. That's what these buffoons really care about, and that's why Mo didn't make the list. Had Mo stayed with Walman all season his pts per games played would have had him seated among the top 20-35 Dmen. Oh well. Thanks LOLonde. Lets look at his other stats though #32 in TOI per game #25 in PK time #11 in hits #5 in blocks #43 in shots I think he's going to crest 60 pts this year playing with a better overall team, and with Walman and Ghostbear as his partners. If he falters, we can bring up Tuomisto and give the big Finn a look. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,831 Report post Posted August 21, 2023 Chiasson signs PTO with Bruins. 1 Jonas Mahonas reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diehardredwingsfan58 157 Report post Posted August 22, 2023 4 hours ago, Akakabuto said: Chiasson signs PTO with Bruins. LOL if he's lucky, He gets a one year league minimum deal. With a team that will be trending down. Pretty sure Yzerman offered that to him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted August 22, 2023 I hope we sign Veleno soon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bIueadams 776 Report post Posted August 22, 2023 8 hours ago, Akakabuto said: Chiasson signs PTO with Bruins. The guy that @Dabura and @kipwinger wanted on a 1-way deal to be the Wings PP specialist? Whoa, can't believe we lost him to a Bruins PTO. Guy must be taking less to win a cup. Guess we gotta sign Veleno now that Chiasson is done holding out. Oh well. Can't win em all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,831 Report post Posted August 22, 2023 4 hours ago, diehardredwingsfan58 said: LOL if he's lucky, He gets a one year league minimum deal. With a team that will be trending down. Pretty sure Yzerman offered that to him. I don’t think Yzerman offered him anything at all. 1 bIueadams reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bIueadams 776 Report post Posted August 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Akakabuto said: I don’t think Yzerman offered him anything at all. Khan's article stated he was offered a 2-way contract. AKA go back to the Griffs little buddy, and you might get called up again if we sell again. 1 Akakabuto reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,065 Report post Posted August 22, 2023 12 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said: I hope we sign Veleno soon I hope we package him for Boeser or Lafreniere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted August 22, 2023 1 hour ago, LeftWinger said: I hope we package him for Boeser or Lafreniere. Veleno and a conditional* 7th round pick for Lafrenier. *condition - 7th round pick becomes Moritz Seider if trade goes through. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 737 Report post Posted August 22, 2023 20 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said: Veleno and a conditional* 7th round pick for Lafrenier. *condition - 7th round pick becomes Moritz Seider if trade goes through. I can't see why the Rags would trade Laff, especially for a pittance. He's not lived up to the hyped (yet atleast) but he's a legitimate top 9 likely top 6 forward. If he figures it out then yes a 1st line star, if not he's a perfectly serviceable forward. 1 Jonas Mahonas reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,019 Report post Posted August 22, 2023 13 minutes ago, mackel said: I can't see why the Rags would trade Laff, especially for a pittance. He's not lived up to the hyped (yet atleast) but he's a legitimate top 9 likely top 6 forward. If he figures it out then yes a 1st line star, if not he's a perfectly serviceable forward. we call these players busts around these parts. 1 Akakabuto reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted August 22, 2023 15 minutes ago, mackel said: I can't see why the Rags would trade Laff, especially for a pittance. He's not lived up to the hyped (yet atleast) but he's a legitimate top 9 likely top 6 forward. If he figures it out then yes a 1st line star, if not he's a perfectly serviceable forward. I said it before, the Rags have a third of their cap hit tied up in their 1st line. They arent going to let Lafrenier have Panarin's minutes unless Panarin gets injured. Lafrenier is scoring a point every other game with middle 6 minutes as a 21 year old. Nothing wrong with that. 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 737 Report post Posted August 22, 2023 5 hours ago, The 91 of Ryans said: we call these players busts around these parts. Lol Zadina was none of those things... but if you get a middle 6 forward from a 1OA, that is a bust relative to draft position. That said still a valuable player unlike Zagina. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diehardredwingsfan58 157 Report post Posted August 22, 2023 17 hours ago, Akakabuto said: I don’t think Yzerman offered him anything at all. Yes he was, According to Ansar Khan he was offered a two way deal. Basically meaning back to Grand Rapids. And you might get a call-up if we get a rash of injuries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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bIueadams 776 Report post Posted August 23, 2023 59 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: Not terrible, only about 825K and 1 year too much, but I can live with it now that Chiasson is off the market 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
