Scott R Lucidi 675 Report post Posted March 7, 2022 Edvinsson has Seider in skating ability, I believe. But I believe Mo trumps him in all else. Sven, what's Eddog gonna look like when he hits Traverse City next year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,831 Report post Posted March 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Scott R Lucidi said: Edvinsson has Seider in skating ability, I believe. But I believe Mo trumps him in all else. Sven, what's Eddog gonna look like when he hits Traverse City next year? Like the lovechild of Dolph Lundgren and Evgeni Plushenko Or you mean hockey wise? Like the next generational Red Wings defenseman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bIueadams 776 Report post Posted March 7, 2022 They are similar in a lot of ways. Steady, smart, mobile, big. Seider has much more offensive talent IMO and he lacks the nordic politeness on the ice. Eddog has the bigger frame, but that's about it. 1 Scott R Lucidi reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott R Lucidi 675 Report post Posted March 8, 2022 4 hours ago, bIueadams said: They are similar in a lot of ways. Steady, smart, mobile, big. Seider has much more offensive talent IMO and he lacks the nordic politeness on the ice. Eddog has the bigger frame, but that's about it. Do you think Seider skates better? Edvinsson looks to be pretty slick for a big fella. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bIueadams 776 Report post Posted March 8, 2022 39 minutes ago, Scott R Lucidi said: Do you think Seider skates better? Edvinsson looks to be pretty slick for a big fella. I can't say. Seider is also a great skater. I think it will come down to which one scores more since both are pretty beastly in their own ends. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RusDRW 155 Report post Posted March 8, 2022 What a nice thing to have them both. And also Soderblom who is even bigger than Edvinsson. This season is the first entertaining one since 2012 or so and the next will be even more interesting. 1 Akakabuto reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,831 Report post Posted March 8, 2022 5 hours ago, RusDRW said: What a nice thing to have them both. And also Soderblom who is even bigger than Edvinsson. This season is the first entertaining one since 2012 or so and the next will be even more interesting. You must pick a side. Godvinsson or Soider. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted March 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, Akakabuto said: You must pick a side. Godvinsson or Soider. Thats TOUGH! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bIueadams 776 Report post Posted March 8, 2022 40 minutes ago, Akakabuto said: You must pick a side. Godvinsson or Soider. Semen Edvinsson = 16 pts in 37 games in the SHL Motown Seider = 28 pts in 41 games in the SHL You're already losing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted March 8, 2022 50 minutes ago, Akakabuto said: You must pick a side. Godvinsson or Soider. I am a Gray Jedi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,831 Report post Posted March 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, bIueadams said: Semen Edvinsson = 16 pts in 37 games in the SHL Motown Seider = 28 pts in 41 games in the SHL You're already losing D+1 vs D+2. Try again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ely s 458 Report post Posted March 8, 2022 1 minute ago, bIueadams said: Semen Edvinsson = 16 pts in 37 games in the SHL Motown Seider = 28 pts in 41 games in the SHL You're already losing Edvinsson is a year younger than Seider was... It´s really a difficult one but to me Seider´s checking and physicality gives him an edge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,831 Report post Posted March 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: I am a Gray Jedi. You are a blue little gremlin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bIueadams 776 Report post Posted March 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: I am a Gray Jedi. You're a gray old boomer 6 minutes ago, Akakabuto said: D+1 vs D+2. Try again. 6 minutes ago, ely s said: Edvinsson is a year younger than Seider was... It´s really a difficult one but to me Seider´s checking and physicality gives him an edge. Seider was in the AHL already at that point. Kid was already ahead of Edb*tch even back then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,831 Report post Posted March 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, bIueadams said: You're a gray old boomer Seider was in the AHL already at that point. Kid was already ahead of Edb*tch even back then. ’Ello, I am Mobitz. Have you seen my big bowl of candy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bIueadams 776 Report post Posted March 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, Akakabuto said: ’Ello, I am Mobitz. Have you seen my big bowl of candy? "Boy Mick that Edvinsson is such a calming presence on the ice" "Hitting, shooting, skating, the kid does it all calmly Ken" "I'm feeling calmer just watching him!" "Oh and Marchand just slewfoot Edvinsson behind the play" "Edvinsson didn't even react, he's just so calm" "And Edvinsson calmly skates back to rejoin the play" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,675 Report post Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) Both are good. I'd break down their tools like this: Better Shot: Seider Better Passer: Edvinsson Better Skater: Edvinsson Better Physicality: Seider Better Transition: Edvinsson Better Hockey IQ: Seider Better Defense: Seider Better 5on5 scorer: Edvinsson Better PK: Seider Better PP: Seider They're really alike in a lot of ways but different in one big way. Edvinsson is WAY more aggressive on offense. He jumps up into plays, will skate with the puck below the goal line, and relies a lot more on his physical tools. Seider is more conservative in the offensive zone, tends to make plays from the dots back, and (despite his nearly impressive physical tools) relies on his smarts. Right now Seider is better by a fair margin because he understands the game so much better. If Edvinsson develops a good shot (which he currently lacks) it will be a lot closer. Edited March 9, 2022 by kipwinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted March 9, 2022 23 hours ago, Akakabuto said: You are a blue little gremlin. All the ladies love me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bIueadams 776 Report post Posted March 9, 2022 18 minutes ago, kipwinger said: Both are good. I'd break down their tools like this: Better Shot: Seider Better Passer: Edvinsson Better Skater: Edvinsson Better Physicality: Seider Better Transition: Edvinsson Better Hockey IQ: Seider Better Defense: Seider Better 5on5 scorer: Edvinsson Better PK: Seider Better PP: Seider They're really alike in a lot of ways but different in one big way. Edvinsson is WAY more aggressive on offense. He jumps up into plays, will skate with the puck below the goal line, and relies a lot more on his physical tools. Seider is more conservative in the offensive zone, tends to make plays from the dots back, and (despite his nearly impressive physical tools) relies on his smarts. Right now Seider is better by a fair margin because he understands the game so much better. If Edvinsson develops a good shot (which he currently lacks) it will be a lot closer. IMO most of these things are too close to call between the two of them to say either has a real advantage. The clear advantage I see with Seider is his physicality and offensive prowess are a head above Edvinsson, and it looks like only the tip of the iceberg for him in those departments. Edvinsson on the other hand might possibly have a super high ceiling. Like Hedman level ceiling. But much like Hedman it might take him 4-7 seasons to get there. I'm not positive he will have the same impact as Seider in his first season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,675 Report post Posted March 9, 2022 Just now, bIueadams said: IMO most of these things are too close to call between the two of them to say either has a real advantage. The clear advantage I see with Seider is his physicality and offensive prowess are a head above Edvinsson, and it looks like only the tip of the iceberg for him in those departments. Edvinsson on the other hand might possibly have a super high ceiling. Like Hedman level ceiling. But much like Hedman it might take him 4-7 seasons to get there. I'm not positive he will have the same impact as Seider in his first season. Totally agree, with few exceptions all of these are REALLY close. I was just forcing myself to make a judgement call. It's even closer when you compare them at the same age. Like, Seider was way more physical a year ago in Sweden than he was two years ago (the same age Edvinsson is now) in the AHL. And two years ago Seider's shot wasn't obviously better either. In their D+1 year they're almost identical except that Edvinsson is just much more aggressive offensively and Seider is so much smarter (especially positionally). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bIueadams 776 Report post Posted March 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, kipwinger said: Totally agree, with few exceptions all of these are REALLY close. I was just forcing myself to make a judgement call. It's even closer when you compare them at the same age. Like, Seider was way more physical a year ago in Sweden than he was two years ago (the same age Edvinsson is now) in the AHL. And two years ago Seider's shot wasn't obviously better either. In their D+1 year they're almost identical except that Edvinsson is just much more aggressive offensively and Seider is so much smarter (especially positionally). This thread will end up becoming a circle jerk for the two of them rather than a flame war. I do agree Seider is the smarter Dman right now - that's why he's having such an impact in his rookie season. But Ed seems to be a mature and a quick learner as well. I won't be surprised if he duplicates Seider's performance in his rookie season at all. We're extremely lucky to have both players. Together they will be the pillars of the team for the next 15-20 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted March 9, 2022 This feels good. Like the days when we could compare and contrast Datsyuk and Zetterberg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bIueadams 776 Report post Posted March 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: This feels good. Like the days when we could compare and contrast Datsyuk and Zetterberg. We have possibly not just one Hedman, but two Hedmans. That's a good spot to be in. We're gonna end up spending 25-30 million on our blue alone though lmao. 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick D 371 Report post Posted March 9, 2022 49 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: This feels good. Like the days when we could compare and contrast Datsyuk and Zetterberg. I was just thinking the same thing, what a good position to be in. When was the last time we had 2 defensemen we could be this excited about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bIueadams 776 Report post Posted March 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Rick D said: I was just thinking the same thing, what a good position to be in. When was the last time we had 2 defensemen we could be this excited about? IDK about you, but I'm still excited about Xavier Ouellet and Ryan Sproul 1 1 town123 and Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
