kipwinger 8,671 Report post Posted February 10 Two more goals for Emmitt Finnie so far tonight. I don't really know anything about this dude but he's been on one hell of a heater the last month or so. 1 stephen-gregory-yzerman reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stephen-gregory-yzerman 129 Report post Posted February 10 Trading Berggren would be a mistake imo. Trade Fabbri and bring up Bergy. 3 kipwinger, 13dangledangle and mackel reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,671 Report post Posted February 10 It just seems like if Raymond, Seider, and to a lesser extent Rasmussen are all going to be getting significant raises in the offseason we'll need to save money where we can without losing too much from what's making us a quality team. Swapping Berggren with Fabbri, or Perron, or even Sprong is one way to ensure your offense doesn't nose dive while still saving a bunch of money. And it's not like the guy can't play, he's really good. I can't say I'll be surprised if he gets traded, but unless the return is significant I don't think it's a great idea. 1 mackel reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stephen-gregory-yzerman 129 Report post Posted February 10 If Wings are in at the deadline keep everyone maybe add. If out trade Fabbri, 1 of Perron/Fischer, Maatta, Gost, and Reimer. Regardless trade Fabbri and Maatta and let Perron/Fischer and Gost walk this summer. Extend Sprong, Kane, and all RFAs. Larkin, Kane, Debrincat, Compher, Raymond, Berggren, Copp, Rasmussen, Perron/Fischer, Veleno, Kostin, Sprong, Mazur Seider, Edvinsson, Walman, Holl, Chiarot, Petry, Johansson Lyon, Husso Still room to add a top 6 F / top 4 D UFA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,019 Report post Posted February 10 It appears Raymond saw the Griffins highlights from last night Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,671 Report post Posted February 10 I'm kinda pumped that the Wings are playing a matinee game because now I can watch the Griffs tonight as well. The chances of me getting anything done today are dwindling lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,671 Report post Posted February 11 Berggren with another goal, Kasper with another primary assist so far tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 1,089 Report post Posted February 11 I am not sure I bring in new blood ... I think the team is playing for each other and have a chip on their shoulde. I have to say Cat impressed me by dropping the gloves. Granted I was more worried about him breaking a finger etc but I think helped get them moving in the right direction. Add/subtract in off season UNLESS there is SUCH a deal it will never happen in another 100 years. I am in the Dance with the girl you brought to the dance and see how far you get with her camp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,671 Report post Posted February 11 1 minute ago, AtlantaHotWings said: I am not sure I bring in new blood ... I think the team is playing for each other and have a chip on their shoulde. I have to say Cat impressed me by dropping the gloves. Granted I was more worried about him breaking a finger etc but I think helped get them moving in the right direction. Add/subtract in off season UNLESS there is SUCH a deal it will never happen in another 100 years. I am in the Dance with the girl you brought to the dance and see how far you get with her camp. I think there’s a lot of wisdom to this. Hard to justify changing a lineup that keeps beating top teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axl Foley 320 Report post Posted February 11 13 hours ago, stephen-gregory-yzerman said: If Wings are in at the deadline keep everyone maybe add. If out trade Fabbri, 1 of Perron/Fischer, Maatta, Gost, and Reimer. Regardless trade Fabbri and Maatta and let Perron/Fischer and Gost walk this summer. Extend Sprong, Kane, and all RFAs. Larkin, Kane, Debrincat, Compher, Raymond, Berggren, Copp, Rasmussen, Perron/Fischer, Veleno, Kostin, Sprong, Mazur Seider, Edvinsson, Walman, Holl, Chiarot, Petry, Johansson Lyon, Husso Still room to add a top 6 F / top 4 D UFA. Highly unlikley Fischer gets traded. His contribution on that 3rd checking line is much more valuable than any return he would get. And I think Sprong is gone. Assuming Kane returns, and Berggren is up, there won't be room for him in the top 9. And you cant afford to pay a 4th liner the kind of money it would take to keep him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stephen-gregory-yzerman 129 Report post Posted February 11 3 hours ago, Axl Foley said: Highly unlikley Fischer gets traded. His contribution on that 3rd checking line is much more valuable than any return he would get. And I think Sprong is gone. Assuming Kane returns, and Berggren is up, there won't be room for him in the top 9. And you cant afford to pay a 4th liner the kind of money it would take to keep him. 93-71-88 27-37-23 17-18-48 24-90-57/36/Mazur Still room for Sprong in top 9 and cap space to sign him including raises. Could also switch Copp and Veleno to have more speed at C for Sprong and Bergy and keep Copp as the shutdown C with some combo of Perron/Fischer/Kostin Mazur/UFA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stephen-gregory-yzerman 129 Report post Posted February 11 On 2/4/2024 at 7:55 PM, stephen-gregory-yzerman said: Nate Danielson - drafted 9th overall 19 years old - 6'2", 185lbs. - RH-C 35GP - 15G - 37PTS Emmitt Finnie - drafted 201st overall 18 years old - 6'1", 185lbs. - LH-C 41GP - 8G - 36PTS Is Danielson a bust or is Finnie the steal of the draft? Not to be taken serious (big Danielson fan) but an interesting tidbit nonetheless. 4 goal night for Finnie last night. 8 goals, 1 assist in past 4GP. update: Danielson 37GP - 15G - 40PTS Finnie 45GP - 16G - 45PTS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott R Lucidi 675 Report post Posted February 11 13 hours ago, AtlantaHotWings said: I am not sure I bring in new blood ... I think the team is playing for each other and have a chip on their shoulde. I have to say Cat impressed me by dropping the gloves. Granted I was more worried about him breaking a finger etc but I think helped get them moving in the right direction. Add/subtract in off season UNLESS there is SUCH a deal it will never happen in another 100 years. I am in the Dance with the girl you brought to the dance and see how far you get with her camp. This is where Yzerman has to be savvy. There are teams out there that are going to be willing to give up good capital at the end of this month. And if we can trade guys away for top 32 picks, then we have to be ready to do it. Perron, Chiarot, and Gost should all be available to highest bidder. 1 town123 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 735 Report post Posted February 11 7 hours ago, Axl Foley said: Highly unlikley Fischer gets traded. His contribution on that 3rd checking line is much more valuable than any return he would get. And I think Sprong is gone. Assuming Kane returns, and Berggren is up, there won't be room for him in the top 9. And you cant afford to pay a 4th liner the kind of money it would take to keep him. Someone said earlier trading Fabbri and promoting Berggren, either at the deadline or in the off season. I think this is optimal and saves some cash. Ideally this let's you keep Sprong and Kane. In the off season we also have to look at moving Veleno (easy) and/or Copp (costly, difficult) to make room for some ELCs. On the back end... we need an upgrade and to make room for and ELC or two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,671 Report post Posted February 11 Emmitt Finnie with four goals last night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott R Lucidi 675 Report post Posted February 11 24 minutes ago, mackel said: Someone said earlier trading Fabbri and promoting Berggren, either at the deadline or in the off season. I think this is optimal and saves some cash. Ideally this let's you keep Sprong and Kane. In the off season we also have to look at moving Veleno (easy) and/or Copp (costly, difficult) to make room for some ELCs. On the back end... we need an upgrade and to make room for and ELC or two. Veleno aint going anywhere Gost Chiarot Petry Perron Fabbri Kane Berggren If the price is right on any of these guys, move em. Im ok giving Sprong up to 3.5 mil and as much term as he wants. He's a wing that can play WELL on any line. He's what we wanted Zadina to be. 1 minute ago, kipwinger said: Emmitt Finnie with four goals last night. Is he good? Or just in a bad league? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 735 Report post Posted February 11 2 hours ago, Scott R Lucidi said: Veleno aint going anywhere Gost Chiarot Petry Perron Fabbri Kane Berggren If the price is right on any of these guys, move em. Im ok giving Sprong up to 3.5 mil and as much term as he wants. He's a wing that can play WELL on any line. He's what we wanted Zadina to be. Is he good? Or just in a bad league? Veleno's gotta go, we have 2 younger and cheaper guys in the pipeline that can step in and take his job as early as next season... Kasper or Danielson 1 The 91 of Ryans reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott R Lucidi 675 Report post Posted February 11 5 hours ago, mackel said: Veleno's gotta go, we have 2 younger and cheaper guys in the pipeline that can step in and take his job as early as next season... Kasper or Danielson you are undervaluing Veleno's position. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axl Foley 320 Report post Posted February 12 Sprong is a goner. I just don't see how the cap space is there without trading Fabbri, or a roster space without trading Berggren. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Troy McClure 347 Report post Posted February 12 2 hours ago, Axl Foley said: Sprong is a goner. I just don't see how the cap space is there without trading Fabbri, or a roster space without trading Berggren. Rumor has it, water might also be wet. Need a source? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axl Foley 320 Report post Posted February 12 42 minutes ago, Troy McClure said: Rumor has it, water might also be wet. Need a source? what are you on about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Troy McClure 347 Report post Posted February 12 4 minutes ago, Axl Foley said: what are you on about? Do you think Sprong is gone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott R Lucidi 675 Report post Posted February 12 https://www.mlive.com/sports/2024/02/duel-in-the-d-red-wings-draft-pick-shines-for-michigan-state-in-win-vs-michigan.html?outputType=amp Our goaltending situation has gone from a complete mess to a good starter, an ok back up, and 2 prospects less than 4 years away. 1 1 town123 and kipwinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Troy McClure 347 Report post Posted February 13 11 hours ago, Scott R Lucidi said: https://www.mlive.com/sports/2024/02/duel-in-the-d-red-wings-draft-pick-shines-for-michigan-state-in-win-vs-michigan.html?outputType=amp Our goaltending situation has gone from a complete mess to a good starter, an ok back up, and 2 prospects less than 4 years away. Cossa = average AllTreyBaybay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott R Lucidi 675 Report post Posted February 13 29 minutes ago, Troy McClure said: Cossa = average AllTreyBaybay Cossa is having another good year, bro. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
