Hairy Lime 234 Report post Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, F.Michael said: By some accounts AA is a 'problem child' that Grand Master Y isn't willing to put up with, and might take less just to get rid of him. Yes, but trading off a 25-year-old coming off a 30-goal season for cheap just because he is perceived to be a 'problem child' seems rather silly. Could you imagine if every GM traded a player only because they were viewed as a 'problem child'...Patrick Kane for example? No, unless multiple assets are involved, and that includes a 1st or a top prospect, then there is really no need to trade him. I hope Stevie holds out for a great return or does not trade him at all, and I certainly hope he does not sell low, I'd be so disappointed in him, and I don't want that. 1 nyqvististhefuture reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted February 24, 2020 I agree that Athanasiou should not be traded, unless there's a 1st round pick, or top prospect coming back. No rush to trade him, and no need to sell low. 3 amato, nyqvististhefuture and LeftWinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,110 Report post Posted February 24, 2020 very disappointed in the return. 4th round pick? I know the conditions, but Green has to play 50% of their games as well. Holland is not going to allow that. PLUS we retained 50% salary? This pick should've been a conditional 2nd. Also, what was the point of acquiring a player who is on LTIR? Holland could've just kept Brodziak on LTIR himself and it wouldn't have mattered. Edmonton wins this trade. Is this revenge for KFQ? I agree with all your thoughts, AA better net us a 1st and a prospect or just keep him. Hopes to Daley, Bernier also going today. I see there may be some interest in disney.com, but honestly I'd rather trade Helm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greenrebellion 415 Report post Posted February 24, 2020 People complaining about the return for Green, lol. 2 marcaractac and ChristopherReevesLegs reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted February 24, 2020 Just now, LeftWinger said: very disappointed in the return. 4th round pick? I know the conditions, but Green has to play 50% of their games as well. Holland is not going to allow that. PLUS we retained 50% salary? This pick should've been a conditional 2nd. Also, what was the point of acquiring a player who is on LTIR? Holland could've just kept Brodziak on LTIR himself and it wouldn't have mattered. Edmonton wins this trade. Is this revenge for KFQ? I agree with all your thoughts, AA better net us a 1st and a prospect or just keep him. Hopes to Daley, Bernier also going today. I see there may be some interest in disney.com, but honestly I'd rather trade Helm. Green was never gonna get us anything. He is damaged goods at this point. At this stage, Green is very much a player where you simply accept the highest bid. He also had a modified NTC, which typically reduces any potential return. 4 LeftWinger, chaps80, ChristopherReevesLegs and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, greenrebellion said: People complaining about the return for Green, lol. Many here over value him - just like they're doing for AA. Too add...Look what we got for Tatar, and Nyquist?....I think it's safe to say they had better careers in Detroit than AA. Edited February 24, 2020 by F.Michael 1 marcaractac reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted February 24, 2020 Just now, F.Michael said: Many here over value him - just like they're doing for AA. Truth. Gonna be a full blown meltdown from some once we see what comes back the other way for AA. 1 F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted February 24, 2020 1 minute ago, marcaractac said: Truth. Gonna be a full blown meltdown from some once we see what comes back the other way for AA. Look what we got for Tatar, and Nyquist?....I think it's safe to say they had better careers in Detroit than AA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted February 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, F.Michael said: Look what we got for Tatar, and Nyquist?....I think it's safe to say they had better careers in Detroit than AA. Exactly. There is no doubt they've been much better players for this team than AA has been. 1 F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted February 24, 2020 1 minute ago, marcaractac said: Exactly. There is no doubt they've been much better players for this team than AA has been. Indeed...Now if AA were on his way to another 30 goal season - then damn straight we'd get a 1st rounder, but like many on this team he's underperformed. I will say the potential for AA on the right team could possibly make Grand Master Y having egg on his face...We'll see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MileHighWingsGuy 178 Report post Posted February 24, 2020 AA is one of the only things worth watching on this team, has been for a couple years. Hope Stevie doesn't pull the trigger if the return isn't right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted February 24, 2020 Just now, MileHighWingsGuy said: AA is one of the only things worth watching on this team, has been for a couple years. Hope Stevie doesn't pull the trigger if the return isn't right. If it's a 3rd - I'd be leery...If it's a 4th, or higher - then no thanks...Me thinks he could/should land us a 2nd round pick in either the 2020 draft, or 2021 draft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted February 24, 2020 1 minute ago, F.Michael said: Indeed...Now if AA were on his way to another 30 goal season - then damn straight we'd get a 1st rounder, but like many on this team he's underperformed. I will say the potential for AA on the right team could possibly make Grand Master Y having egg on his face...We'll see. In the end, the guy is a liability without the puck. When he is scoring, it's easy to overlook. People gushed over his two goal night vs Montreal, but quickly forget the absolutely LAZY giveaway that led to Montreal's first goal. 1 F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,110 Report post Posted February 24, 2020 anybody have any way of watching coverage? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted February 24, 2020 When I heard Green was going to be traded, I thought, "What can we get for him, a 5th round pick?", so this is a better than I was expecting. I've never been a fan of AA, even during his 30 goal season. Because of the cap, I didn't think be would be on the team past his current contract. Mantha and Bertuzzi are RFA's, we need cap room to re-sign them. 3 hours ago, marcaractac said: In the end, the guy is a liability without the puck. When he is scoring, it's easy to overlook. People gushed over his two goal night vs Montreal, but quickly forget the absolutely LAZY giveaway that led to Montreal's first goal. I'm not expecting much for AA. Maybe a 2nd or 3rd round pick and a 23 year old player for GR. Trading AA means more $ to sign Mantha and Bertuzzi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted February 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, Barrie said: When I heard Green was going to be traded, I thought, "What can we get for him, a 5th round pick?", so this is a better than I was expecting. I've never been a fan of AA, even during his 30 goal season. Because of the cap, I didn't think be would be on the team past his current contract. Mantha and Bertuzzi are RFA's, we need cap room to re-sign them. I'm not expecting much for AA. Maybe a 2nd or 3rd round pick and a 23 year old player for GR. Trading AA means more $ to sign Mantha and Bertuzzi. I can assure you that no cap space needs to be cleared for re-signing MAntha and Bert. Is AA on the way out? Sure. But for that low a price? Hell naw. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 1,119 Report post Posted February 24, 2020 4 hours ago, F.Michael said: If it's a 3rd - I'd be leery...If it's a 4th, or higher - then no thanks...Me thinks he could/should land us a 2nd round pick in either the 2020 draft, or 2021 draft. So 2 2nds made F.Michael happy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted February 25, 2020 Getting anything for Green is good. Got a 4th. Salary retention and taking on a dead contract means nothing. Off the books after this season. Bye Mikey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 758 Report post Posted February 25, 2020 This whole Green at the deadline saga is as Brodziak as it is long... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TLGTrico 655 Report post Posted February 25, 2020 6 hours ago, AtlantaHotWings said: So 2 2nds made F.Michael happy? The minimum return I wanted was a 2nd and a prospect. Two seconds is close enough to that 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted February 25, 2020 10 hours ago, TLGTrico said: The minimum return I wanted was a 2nd and a prospect. Two seconds is close enough to that Yeah, I was hoping for a 1st or a high end prospect (would have preferred either), but two 2nd's is still a good return. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Wing 1,521 Report post Posted February 28, 2020 NO BACKSIES! Green out 3-4 weeks with an MCL sprain 1 Akakabuto reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted February 29, 2020 Looks like we already won the Green trade. AA left with a lower body injury too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arag 308 Report post Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) AA gets injured rather frequently. I have watched him closely while he was a Red Wing and also his second game for Oilers. Did not see what happened to AA. He gets these mysterious injuries often. I wonder how is he going to perform after receiving a long term contact. Just hoping those two second rounders turn out to be better than him. Edited February 29, 2020 by arag Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,742 Report post Posted February 29, 2020 Watching Marco Rossi on NHL network right now. He's going to be better than Lafreniere. Mark it. 1 Akakabuto reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites