DonHakan 40 Report post Posted October 8, 2020 >Stutzle goes #3 overall >Wings proceed to draft 3 Swedes >Send Seider to Sweden > 2 2 amato, The 91 of Ryans, Akakabuto and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwedeLundin77 460 Report post Posted October 8, 2020 55 minutes ago, Akakabuto said: https://hockeysverige.se/2020/10/08/hakan-andersson-detroits-draft Some Hakan quotes on the top three Swedes from the link(via google translate and minor editing from me). On Raymond and trading back in the first round: - Yes, we also thought that the three who went top-three would go top-three. Had any of them fallen down to our choice, we would have had to have a discussion about who we would choose. But we probably had four, five names that we talked about and that we really liked and it ended up with Lucas coming out on top of them. - There were a number of different scenarios. We talked about what we would do if someone wanted the fourth choice and offered something in return for us to jump down to election six or seven and things like that. Had we got an equally good player then? But in the end, everyone was very excited that we got Lucas. On WW and how he is the next Hedman: - It was a gift from above when he landed in the second round, so we could pick him then. I can say as such, that if we had chosen somewhere between pick 20 and 31 in the first round, I would have discussed Wallinder quite hard. - He's a fine raw material. Someone told me that Hedman had taken part in some training with Modo, and then many had commented on the similarities between them. "They skate the same, they carry the puck the same" and things like that. Then he has a long way to go, he is not a finished product in any way. Now he has been up and played a bit with the A-team and there he has had his ups and downs - but there is nothing strange about that. He is still young and gaining experience. On Niederbach(my favourite): - This is a super exciting player. He's really in the same category as Lucas Raymond. They are both right hand shots, they are about the same size and this guy's main characteristic is that he has a head that works really fast. Raymond has fantastic hands, Niederbach is also sharp there. They are similar in many ways. - Many teams talk about the players as "top-six" or "bottom six-forwards" and we see that Niederbach has the potential to become a top six-forward in a few years. A knee injury spoiled the entire 2018-2019 season for the Frölunda talent, and the way he recovered from it impresses Håkan Andersson. - Such a thing is weighed in as a positive trait. When he started playing hockey again last year, he had not played in 14 months, I think. Still, he basically came in the top ten in the points league in the junior series, and then he played against players who were one or two years older than him. Then you saw what potential he has. On CatboysRossi's Hijacking Theory and picking swedes: - I have worked for Detroit for 30 years and it is clearly most of those who are in the club now. That discussion comes up at regular intervals and I am the first to say "screw what it says in the passport - choose the best players" - Steve Yzerman knows that if we choose a Swede, they are easily socially adapted, they speak good English, they are good at adapting tactically and things like that. But we do not hunt Swedes. We chase good hockey players regardless of nationality. Then we know that Swedes are in a certain way, if you are to generalize, while Russians are in a way, Finns in a different way and Czechs have their special characteristics. But in the end, it's the best hockey player we want. It does not matter what nationality the player has. It's very easy to pop a hole in his stupid conspiracy theory. Look at the 2019 draft.... we selected a German defenseman at 6.... which was considered a reach (at the time). Broberg went 8th and Soderstrom went 11th. Both of these Swedes were ranked top 20 whereas Seider was projected to go in the 20s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonHakan 40 Report post Posted October 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, SwedeLundin said: It's very easy to pop a hole in his stupid conspiracy theory. Look at the 2019 draft.... we selected a German defenseman at 6.... which was considered a reach (at the time). Broberg went 8th and Soderstrom went 11th. Both of these Swedes were ranked top 20 whereas Seider was projected to go in the 20s. It's pretty obvious the Swedish mafia was getting pay back for last year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted October 8, 2020 2 2 Dabura, krsmith17, amato and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonHakan 40 Report post Posted October 8, 2020 1 hour ago, nyqvististhefuture said: "The kid plays" "Yes godfather" 5 nyqvististhefuture, amato, Dabura and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,230 Report post Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) https://puckprose.com/2020/10/08/2020-nhl-draft-grading-every-teams-draft-class/ Quote Detroit Red Wings Favorite pick: I liked several of their picks a lot. William Wallinder was a great pick at the top of the second round. But Lucas Raymond is the obvious choice here. He’s one of the smartest and most gifted players in the draft. Red Wings fans are going to love him. Least favorite pick: Cross Hanas is a fine prospect, but I think drafting him in the second round was a bit of a reach. He has the upside to prove me wrong, though, and I’d love for him to do that. Grade: A-. Great draft for the Red Wings. Edited October 9, 2020 by Dabura 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted October 8, 2020 My draft thoughts: 1. No surprises in the top 3. Didnt think LAK or OTT were picking D with those picks. 2. Raymond wouldnt haven't been my pick, but I prefer it over Perfetti, Askarov, or Drysdale. 3. OTT surprised me taking Sanderson over Drysdale. 4. Rossi and Perfetti went later than I expected. Maybe they weren't the studs some of you thought they were. 5. Askarov didnt go top 10, which anyone with a brain knew he wouldn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BringBack19 110 Report post Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) On 10/8/2020 at 7:12 PM, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: My draft thoughts: 1. No surprises in the top 3. Didnt think LAK or OTT were picking D with those picks. 2. Raymond wouldnt haven't been my pick, but I prefer it over Perfetti, Askarov, or Drysdale. 3. OTT surprised me taking Sanderson over Drysdale. 4. Rossi and Perfetti went later than I expected. Maybe they weren't the studs some of you thought they were. 5. Askarov didnt go top 10, which anyone with a brain knew he wouldn't. On #4; anyone with a brain understands that Ottawa & Anaheim were going to take the best D available at 5&6. New Jersey doesn’t need a 1/2 playmaking center, they have that in spades. They need a pure goal scorer. Buffalo is gonna Buffalo. As such, they take the most overrated player in the draft. This isn’t the normal over hyping (Tippett) by the forum. If they didn’t go at 4 it’s not a surprise they would be picked anywhere between 8 & 12. The mistake was drafting Perfetti before Lundell. Edited October 10, 2020 by BringBack19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted October 10, 2020 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said: I'm torn on this. There's such a large gap between the SHL and J20. He's probably too good for the J20, and likely good enough for the SHL, but he just won't get the minutes up there. Especially on a loaded Frolunda team. I'm hoping he and Soderblom both stay down and continue to dominate. It's better than seeing them get called up and play 3 minutes a night with nothing to show for it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted October 10, 2020 1 hour ago, krsmith17 said: I'm torn on this. There's such a large gap between the SHL and J20. He's probably too good for the J20, and likely good enough for the SHL, but he just won't get the minutes up there. Especially on a loaded Frolunda team. I'm hoping he and Soderblom both stay down and continue to dominate. It's better than seeing them get called up and play 3 minutes a night with nothing to show for it... Yup , but if he can get some decent minutes id let him go and see how he looks ... soderblom just had his trial run sweden j20 should be insanely fun to watch man soderblom raymond niederbach johansson wallinder grewe berglund all in the mix 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said: sweden j20 should be insanely fun to watch man soderblom raymond niederbach johansson wallinder grewe berglund all in the mix Can't f***ing wait man! 1 nyqvististhefuture reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,019 Report post Posted October 15, 2020 The Athletic: What Draper's First Draft Tells Us About The Direction of the Red Wings (paywall) Quote Draper, however, might have given a clearer glimpse into one of the true core traits the department values when he was asked about hockey sense. He began his answer by calling it “probably the one thing that is toughest to improve.” In other words: You want your prospects to have it from the start. “It’s something that we put a priority on,” he said. “We want players that can think the game, we want players that can play fast, and if they think the game, there’s a lot of things that they can improve on.” Sounds like they got their guy, Raymond. 1 1 WRusco and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,842 Report post Posted October 16, 2020 Hanas got some moves 3 1 Wings3:16, krsmith17, The 91 of Ryans and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,019 Report post Posted October 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Akakabuto said: Hanas got some moves So. Decent size. Good shot. Great hands. Poor skating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,129 Report post Posted October 17, 2020 all these cerebral players, we now need a cerebral coach, a chess player, a Professor.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted October 17, 2020 On 10/8/2020 at 11:58 AM, DonHakan said: >Stutzle goes #3 overall >Wings proceed to draft 3 Swedes >Send Seider to Sweden > All hail our Nordic Overlords! 1 1 ely s and Akakabuto reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ely s 458 Report post Posted October 17, 2020 I would have loved to see Reichel or Peterka falling to us in the second round, but our choices make me happy enough to get over it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,842 Report post Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, F.Michael said: All hail our Nordic Overlords! I will rule fair and wise when I get crowned a mod. Edited October 17, 2020 by Akakabuto 1 F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
town123 231 Report post Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, ely s said: I would have loved to see Reichel or Peterka falling to us in the second round, but our choices make me happy enough to get over it Peterka was taken at #34. Just realized you probably already know this and you meant falling to #45. N/M Edited October 17, 2020 by town123 beer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted October 18, 2020 18 hours ago, Akakabuto said: I will rule fair and wise when I get crowned a mod. My Liege 1 Akakabuto reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ely s 458 Report post Posted October 18, 2020 13 hours ago, town123 said: Peterka was taken at #34. Just realized you probably already know this and you meant falling to #45. N/M We could have taken him with #32. Peterka will be a nice pick up for Buffalo. His unrelenting motor is a force multiplier in every zone. He's hard on every puck. He's an eager, willing combatant in board battles. He's violent, disruptive -- a real pain in the ass. He'll make second and third efforts where other players generally relent. He's rarely, if ever stationary, constantly scanning the ice when the puck isn't on his stick. -EliteProspects 2020 NHL Draft Guide this is an assessment I totally agree with and honestly, he is a pain in the ass out there. Plus having a shoot first mentality Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 31, 2020 Hey everyone, this new guy is pretty smart. I'm not sure if he came up with this all on his own, but it's some pretty profound s***... Has anyone else come to the realization that Yzerman is building a defensive core on skating AND mobility? Next he's going to tell us that Yzerman values skill and hockey IQ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, NineLegs said: It's fun to be a doosh? Only to literal pieces of s***. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
