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On 6/20/2024 at 12:58 PM, diehardredwingsfan58 said:

Friedman and Marek are saying that Steve Yzerman has strong interest in John Gibson, This is definitely a trade I can see going down between Verbeek and Yzerman.

Could see it happening, but SY literally just threw cold water on the idea at the predraft presser. Saying he doesnt want to spend the assets that it would take and that he's instead looking to add a goalie to the Griffins. One that can jump up to the wings if the injury bug hits. 

Yzer prolly has indeed been talking to Verbeek, but doesnt like the price

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28 minutes ago, stephen-gregory-yzerman said:

According to Friedman McGroarty could be available. Wonder what it would cost.

There's rumors that Chevy has interest in Berggren. So there you go plus McGroarity is playing another year at Michigan supposedly.

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5 hours ago, stephen-gregory-yzerman said:

According to Friedman McGroarty could be available. Wonder what it would cost.

This is actually huge news for us.

McGroarty is NHL ready IMO. Jets likely offered him his ELC when the college season ended and he said no and ghosted them. Pretty apparent he intends to finish college and pick his destination.

McGroarty has spent his entire life in Michigan. And his father coaches honeybaked and manages the Muskegon lumberjacks. 

Couple this with our team being on the upswing, and also having roster space available... boys we may be landing Rutger McGroarty for cheap.

Mcgroarty also doesnt have an agent. Likely his father is acting on his behalf. A guy that the wings more than likely have a relationship with. 

Teams are going to be hesitant to trade for him not knowing what his intentions are. And if they do trade for his rights they likely wont fork over much. 

Hoping Yzerman already knows the situation with this kid and his family. If he just wants to be a red wing, then trade the jets a late round pick or a B prospect for his rights, get him on his ELC this summer, and get him on the team next year. If he actually wants to earn a degree... no worries, we wait, and get him for free in 2 years where he'll be the black ace in a cup run.

Exciting stuff. I wonder if SY has had this rabbit in his hat for awhile now...

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Further to what i said above,

Rutger has already been teammates with a number of Red Wings prospects. Trey Augustine, Brady Cleveland, Brennan Ali, Red Savage, Kienan Draper...

And his current coach at UofM is former Wings AC Brandon Naruto. Naruto has never worked for another NHL team besides us. And he was coached by former Wings AC Adam Nightingale in USA development as well. 

Furthermore, his current UofM teammate Jake Truscott is also thumbing his nose at the canucks and will pick his destination this August. Also a Michigan homegrown, and also someone I expect the Wings will pursue.

This kid has Red Wings DNA in him at every level. With the state of the team, I would be very surprised if we are not his top choice considering his background.

I was reading we will have to forfeit a 2nd to the jets if we sign him straight out of college in 2 years. Screw that. Give them this years mid 2nd straight up and plant him on the team NOW. He already has a grown mans physique, and he's been a captain everywhere he's played. This kid can play for us next year. Worst case scenario he can hang with his buddy Truscott in the AHL for one year, but i dont think thats likely. 

Going to be very surprised if the wings are not all over this. 

 

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6 hours ago, stephen-gregory-yzerman said:

I wish Yzerman coulda been in on Gauthier but McGroarty could be a great pickup too. Similar style play that powerforward game something this team is lacking. 

The Jets can sit back and wait for a bit can't they?   I'm thinking Winnipeg would ask for Ed in return and maybe SY offers up Johanssen/Wallinder/Berggren and a 2nd?

Gauthier went for Drysdale

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1 hour ago, town123 said:

The Jets can sit back and wait for a bit can't they?   I'm thinking Winnipeg would ask for Ed in return and maybe SY offers up Johanssen/Wallinder/Berggren and a 2nd?

Gauthier went for Drysdale

At some point they lose him for a 2nd, he just has to stay in school... so they don't have as much leverage as you'd think.

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16 hours ago, mackel said:

At some point they lose him for a 2nd, he just has to stay in school... so they don't have as much leverage as you'd think.

Yep I get that, but I thought the kid wanted to turn pro and the Jets wouldn't guarantee a spot on the roster. 

 We may have to pay more if SY thinks the kid is NHL ready, which probably isn't the case since he would probably want McG to excel in the AHL first.

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4 hours ago, town123 said:

Yep I get that, but I thought the kid wanted to turn pro and the Jets wouldn't guarantee a spot on the roster. 

 We may have to pay more if SY thinks the kid is NHL ready, which probably isn't the case since he would probably want McG to excel in the AHL first.

So seems like his attitude is... if youre just gonna stick me in the AHL, then I'll just stay in college.

I do think he's NHL ready, and the Jets are being kinda dumb on this. But if they think they can get equal value back in exchange for a player that's unwilling to conform, why not? 

At the sametime he risks being left in college to rot for 2 more seasons. He's too good for the NCAA at this point. He's filled out his frame and his skating is MUCH better than it was on draft day.

However, his family thinks very highly of Brandon Naruto, and his mom literally called him the best skills coach in the game. So maybe he's content to stay and develop in college. 

From what ive gathered, he's been training in Toronto with Adam Fantilli (CBJ) during summers. But I also see him on Instagram spending time with Draper a lot, and his other teammates too. 

Was this the masterplan for Kienan Draper all along? Draft him with a 7th, a pick that would probably be a waste anyway, giving the kid a little cache as a drafted player. Then arrange for him to join the juggernaut NCAA program that's pumping out NHL talent. And then get him to relay information back to the Wings on those players, as well as sell the UofM players on the wings franchise?... Devious.

Im about 100% confident that Kienan will be joining his dads staff the moment he has his degree and his career as a player is essentially over. 

Anyway, I won't be surprised if pick 15 comes up and Bettman says "we have a trade" BY GAWD THATS RUTGER MCGROARTYS MUSIC. Jets used pick 14 to get him. Chevy probably just wants to recoup his investment. And its a weak draft so just get this kid... and then send Kienan back out to start flipping the rest of mcgroartys teammates to us...

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46 minutes ago, Jimmybigrigs69 said:

So seems like his attitude is... if youre just gonna stick me in the AHL, then I'll just stay in college.

I do think he's NHL ready, and the Jets are being kinda dumb on this. But if they think they can get equal value back in exchange for a player that's unwilling to conform, why not? 

At the sametime he risks being left in college to rot for 2 more seasons. He's too good for the NCAA at this point. He's filled out his frame and his skating is MUCH better than it was on draft day.

However, his family thinks very highly of Brandon Naruto, and his mom literally called him the best skills coach in the game. So maybe he's content to stay and develop in college. 

From what ive gathered, he's been training in Toronto with Adam Fantilli (CBJ) during summers. But I also see him on Instagram spending time with Draper a lot, and his other teammates too. 

Was this the masterplan for Kienan Draper all along? Draft him with a 7th, a pick that would probably be a waste anyway, giving the kid a little cache as a drafted player. Then arrange for him to join the juggernaut NCAA program that's pumping out NHL talent. And then get him to relay information back to the Wings on those players, as well as sell the UofM players on the wings franchise?... Devious.

Im about 100% confident that Kienan will be joining his dads staff the moment he has his degree and his career as a player is essentially over. 

Anyway, I won't be surprised if pick 15 comes up and Bettman says "we have a trade" BY GAWD THATS RUTGER MCGROARTYS MUSIC. Jets used pick 14 to get him. Chevy probably just wants to recoup his investment. And its a weak draft so just get this kid... and then send Kienan back out to start flipping the rest of mcgroartys teammates to us...

Lots of good info here and thx.    I'm still holding out hope for a Wallinder + 2nd + 4th scenario....lol

 

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1 hour ago, Jimmybigrigs69 said:

So seems like his attitude is... if youre just gonna stick me in the AHL, then I'll just stay in college.

I do think he's NHL ready, and the Jets are being kinda dumb on this. But if they think they can get equal value back in exchange for a player that's unwilling to conform, why not? 

At the sametime he risks being left in college to rot for 2 more seasons. He's too good for the NCAA at this point. He's filled out his frame and his skating is MUCH better than it was on draft day.

However, his family thinks very highly of Brandon Naruto, and his mom literally called him the best skills coach in the game. So maybe he's content to stay and develop in college. 

From what ive gathered, he's been training in Toronto with Adam Fantilli (CBJ) during summers. But I also see him on Instagram spending time with Draper a lot, and his other teammates too. 

Was this the masterplan for Kienan Draper all along? Draft him with a 7th, a pick that would probably be a waste anyway, giving the kid a little cache as a drafted player. Then arrange for him to join the juggernaut NCAA program that's pumping out NHL talent. And then get him to relay information back to the Wings on those players, as well as sell the UofM players on the wings franchise?... Devious.

Im about 100% confident that Kienan will be joining his dads staff the moment he has his degree and his career as a player is essentially over. 

Anyway, I won't be surprised if pick 15 comes up and Bettman says "we have a trade" BY GAWD THATS RUTGER MCGROARTYS MUSIC. Jets used pick 14 to get him. Chevy probably just wants to recoup his investment. And its a weak draft so just get this kid... and then send Kienan back out to start flipping the rest of mcgroartys teammates to us...

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46 minutes ago, Jimmybigrigs69 said:

Ullmark to Ottawa

Pens are selling Jarry

Preds and Canes are working on a big deal involving Necas and Saros

Caps have many irons in the fire and are expected to make multiple moves

Would u want Jensen back?

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