Off-season moves

[BinMucker94 302]

6 minutes ago, Barrie said:

I heard on the radio today the Oilers are about to make McDavid the highest paid player in the league! $13.5 Million a year for 7 years!

Anyone else thinks that's crazy? I know it's McDavid, but he's only in his second year! Should he already be making more then guys like Crosby and Kane?

If McDavid was smart he'd take less so they can continue to build a really solid team around him. Be contenders for years.

[Barrie 900]

Just now, frankgrimes said:

Soon the best player in the game, not even 20 years old and will be the next Crosby. Katz and the Oilers will get back way more than what they are paying the guy.

Crosby signed a contract that's been made illegal under the new CBA, plus his contract is worth 114 million $.

Mathews, Eichel and Laine have to love this because their deals will now also be massive.

That was the first thing I thought, it's going to make salaries skyrocket for other guys his age! McDavid should be the highest paid player in the game, but not this soon.

[frankgrimes 1,836]

10 minutes ago, Barrie said:

That was the first thing I thought, it's going to make salaries skyrocket for other guys his age! McDavid should be the highest paid player in the game, but not this soon.

Well with the new lockout coming and new rules of course young guys especially ones this good will ask for the moon now. Some may think it's high or too early but the guy is so worth it.

Man the Oilers: Gretzky, Messier and now McDavid and Draisaitl wow

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

If the Oilers sign him for that much they likely won't be able to protect Draisaitl from a predatory offer sheet down the line unless they unload some bigger contracts

 

Edited June 28, 2017 by ChristopherReevesLegs

[LeftWinger 5,090]

Would any of you want Jumbo Joe?

[krsmith17 7,191]

31 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

Would any of you want Jumbo Joe?

Hell no!

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

44 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

Would any of you want Jumbo Joe?

Hell yea!

[e_prime 1,936]

Absolutely ******* not. 

Just now, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

Hell yea!

For what purpose? To overpay? To over-extend?  Word on the street is he wants 3 years and who knows what he wants $$$ wise? What good would he do us? 

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

3 minutes ago, e_prime said:

Absolutely ******* not. 

For what purpose? To overpay? To over-extend?  Word on the street is he wants 3 years and who knows what he wants $$$ wise? What good would he do us? 

He's good at passing

[DickieDunn 2,571]

But we are paying Kronwall, Ericsson, and Green more than that.  3 defenseman with much less upside.

Smith has no upside, he is what he is

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[frankgrimes 1,836]

On a 1 year contract hell yes, more than that no because you could flip him for picks at the trade dead line.

[e_prime 1,936]

6 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

He's good at passing

*yawn*

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

 

[Datsyukian-Deke 722]

1 hour ago, LeftWinger said:

Would any of you want Jumbo Joe?

Yes! 8 years ago....

[Never_Retire_Steve 35]

I feel like guys like Yakupov are the exact types of players that the Wings should be going after.

Edmonton being able to sign McDavid for anything less than max is a bargain for them.

[xtrememachine1 795]

6 minutes ago, Never_Retire_Steve said:

I feel like guys like Yakupov are the exact types of players that the Wings should be going after.

They should be going after, but would Yakupov WANT to play here?  That's the other side people are forgetting.  He was a bust on the Oilers, plays just one year in St Louis and is a free agent now.  Whatever team he signs with now will make or break him as an NHL player.  He needs to sign with contender that will give him other good linemates to help boost his stats and get his game on track.  A Chicago or Pittsburgh type of team could do that.  Maybe even Toronto.  I don't think Detroit is the ideal fit for him, as much as I'd love to have him here.

6 minutes ago, Never_Retire_Steve said:

Edmonton being able to sign McDavid for anything less than max is a bargain for them.

Not when it cripples your team cap wise.  It crippled the Pens with Crosby and Malkin until guys like Murray, Haglin, Bonino, Schultz and other low cap hit players joined the team. Paying a guy that much in a team sport like hockey isn't really a good idea when you're going for a championship.

[frankgrimes 1,836]

People can bet that Yakupov can make mich more in the KHL and play in front of friends and family

[kickazz 5,459]

Thornton > Nielsen

[krsmith17 7,191]

3 minutes ago, kickazz said:

Thornton > Nielsen

Absolutely. If we could somehow ship Nielsen back to the Island, and sign Thornton to $6M x 3, I'd be down...

[Never_Retire_Steve 35]

1 hour ago, xtrememachine1 said:

They should be going after, but would Yakupov WANT to play here?  That's the other side people are forgetting.  He was a bust on the Oilers, plays just one year in St Louis and is a free agent now.  Whatever team he signs with now will make or break him as an NHL player.  He needs to sign with contender that will give him other good linemates to help boost his stats and get his game on track.  A Chicago or Pittsburgh type of team could do that.  Maybe even Toronto.  I don't think Detroit is the ideal fit for him, as much as I'd love to have him here.

Not when it cripples your team cap wise.  It crippled the Pens with Crosby and Malkin until guys like Murray, Haglin, Bonino, Schultz and other low cap hit players joined the team. Paying a guy that much in a team sport like hockey isn't really a good idea when you're going for a championship.

Yakupov probably wouldn't want to play in Detroit but that's not really the point. The focus should be getting young guys who are undervalued rather than old past their prime d men like Hainsey and Girardi.

As for the Pens comparison I really don't think that's a good comparison at all. Pittsburgh has now won 3 Stanley Cups and is one of the highest valued franchises in the league with one of the strongest fanbases. I would trade for that in a heartbeat regardless of what that does to the cap. McDavid is a generational talent and he's worth every penny he gets IMO

[xtrememachine1 795]

8 minutes ago, Never_Retire_Steve said:

As for the Pens comparison I really don't think that's a good comparison at all. Pittsburgh has now won 3 Stanley Cups and is one of the highest valued franchises in the league with one of the strongest fanbases. I would trade for that in a heartbeat regardless of what that does to the cap. McDavid is a generational talent and he's worth every penny he gets IMO

The Penguins were serious under achievers (at least in the playoffs anyways) before lower cap hit players like the ones I mentioned joined their team.  They are successful because they're getting good production from players that have small cap hits and its off setting the massive cap hits from players like Crosby, Malkin and Letang.  If Edmonton is going to have success as a team while paying McDavid $13 mil a year, they'll need to find similar players to off set that cap hit, which isn't easy.  Take Tampa Bay for example.  Going into the cap era, they were paying three players a ton of money and the rest of the team suffered.

[DickieDunn 2,571]

If I was a youngish offensive minded player I wouldn't come within 500 miles of a team coached by Blashill

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[Never_Retire_Steve 35]

1 hour ago, xtrememachine1 said:

The Penguins were serious under achievers (at least in the playoffs anyways) before lower cap hit players like the ones I mentioned joined their team.  They are successful because they're getting good production from players that have small cap hits and its off setting the massive cap hits from players like Crosby, Malkin and Letang.  If Edmonton is going to have success as a team while paying McDavid $13 mil a year, they'll need to find similar players to off set that cap hit, which isn't easy.  Take Tampa Bay for example.  Going into the cap era, they were paying three players a ton of money and the rest of the team suffered.

I get what you're saying and I agree but at the same time look at what a full year with a healthy McDavid did for their team. The Oilers were a complete joke of a franchise for an entire decade and then all of a sudden adding 1 guy to the fold increased their Stanley Cup equity by a sizable amount. At this point, they are a team with very few good players after McDavid so even with him making $13 mil it's not like they can get much worse unless he gets injured or somehow declines very quickly. Guys like McDavid are few and far between, he's already the best player in the NHL at age 20 and is likely to improve over the next ~3-5 years.

[kickazz 5,459]

2 hours ago, DickieDunn said:

If I was a youngish offensive minded player I wouldn't come within 500 miles of a team coached by Blashill

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It's amazing how your whipping boy is Blashill, when in reality our roster isn't even that good and even Babcock struggled terribly with it.

I mean not a fan of Blashill myself but it's hilarious how you exaggerate the problem.

Edited June 29, 2017 by kickazz

[kliq 3,763]

1 hour ago, kickazz said:

It's amazing how your whipping boy is Blashill, when in reality our roster isn't even that good and even Babcock struggled terribly with it.

I mean not a fan of Blashill myself but it's hilarious how you exaggerate the problem.

Ya it's getting to Lefty/Franzen levels. I swear there is a comment in every top thread right now.