kliq 3,763 Report post Posted March 1, 2017 Just now, frankgrimes said: Like I've mentioned sad to see him go was the best off season signing. At least he has a chance of playing meaningful games now Habs are still in it. Please explain to me how the Ott signing was better then the Vanek signing? 4 BBD10, krsmith17, PavelValerievichDatsyuk and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted March 1, 2017 Just now, kliq said: Please explain to me how the Ott signing was better then the Vanek signing? Truculence Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted March 1, 2017 Please explain to me how the Ott signing was better then the Vanek signing? Only 800.000 cap hit and absolutely no risk and an entertaining player on a team that needed guys like him. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted March 1, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, frankgrimes said: Only 800.000 cap hit and absolutely no risk and an entertaining player on a team that needed guys like him. Vanek has the lowest caphit per point not counting ELCs... aka most bargain contract Edited March 1, 2017 by ChristopherReevesLegs 2 krsmith17 and PavelValerievichDatsyuk reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,763 Report post Posted March 1, 2017 8 minutes ago, frankgrimes said: Only 800.000 cap hit and absolutely no risk and an entertaining player on a team that needed guys like him. I'm not disputing his contract, what I want to know is what makes it better then Vanek's? 2 ChristopherReevesLegs and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted March 1, 2017 I'm not disputing his contract, what I want to know is what makes it better then Vanek's?The Vanek signing was more risky. I didn't expect him to have the season he is having so far that's for sure.With Ott basically everyone knew what the Wings were getting...A heart and soul guy who does very well in the face-off circle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted March 1, 2017 "Hollands plays Vanek cause hes a dumb ass" At 12:01 am today NHL roster sizes expanded. Which is why trades are rolling in right now. Which is why Ott was sat and just traded. So theres your explanation everyone who moaned about Vanek playing limited minutes tonight. 4 minutes ago, frankgrimes said: The Vanek signing was more risky. I didn't expect him to have the season he is having so far that's for sure. With Ott basically everyone knew what the Wings were getting...A heart and soul guy who does very well in the face-off circle. Ok that would be a fair assesment if it were July 2016. What about today? Who was the better signing from our current standpoint? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted March 1, 2017 "Hollands plays Vanek cause hes a dumb ass" At 12:01 am today NHL roster sizes expanded. Which is why trades are rolling in right now. Which is why Ott was sat and just traded. So theres your explanation everyone who moaned about Vanek playing limited minutes tonight. Ok that would be a fair assesment if it were July 2016. What about today? Who was the better signing from our current standpoint?Of course Vanek hands down Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted March 1, 2017 1 minute ago, frankgrimes said: Of course Vanek hands down So why on earth are you arguing with kliq like its july? Lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted March 1, 2017 Jurco for a 3rd, outstanding that he got that for a spare part.Smith for a second and a third, also great. I would have been happy with a third.Ott for anything at all is good. He was better than I thought he'd be, but still just a reserve forward.The key is moving Vanek now. If he gets even one draft pick or prospect I'll be happy. If he gets a first plus something, Holland gets a gold star. If he doesn't trade him, he gets a frowny face sticker.Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk 3 krsmith17, kliq and PavelValerievichDatsyuk reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted March 1, 2017 15 minutes ago, DickieDunn said: Jurco for a 3rd, outstanding that he got that for a spare part. Smith for a second and a third, also great. I would have been happy with a third. Ott for anything at all is good. He was better than I thought he'd be, but still just a reserve forward. The key is moving Vanek now. If he gets even one draft pick or prospect I'll be happy. If he gets a first plus something, Holland gets a gold star. If he doesn't trade him, he gets a frowny face sticker. Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk Dickie made a somewhat positive post. What timeline are we living in? Alls good. Vanek should be on the move tomorrow as our last piece. Best forward available. Shine those kickin boots Ken, tomorrows another kickin day HOOOORUH 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted March 1, 2017 Been awhile since I had much reason to say Holland did good. Believe it or not I was a "Holland apologist" on red wings centralSent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted March 1, 2017 12 minutes ago, DickieDunn said: Been awhile since I had much reason to say Holland did good. Believe it or not I was a "Holland apologist" on red wings central Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk Congratulations, youve returned to rational thinking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brandon27 111 Report post Posted March 1, 2017 At this point it should be pretty simple. Vanek... Are you going to re-sign here? If no, you trade him for whatever the best package is that you can get. No point in keeping him no matter what the return if he's not going to be part of the futureSent from my Samsung Galaxy S5 using Tapatalk... ignore the typos! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted March 1, 2017 I'm sad to see Otter go. At least he could take face offs and score, more than someone with the number 15 on his back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted March 1, 2017 38 minutes ago, brandon27 said: At this point it should be pretty simple. Vanek... Are you going to re-sign here? If no, you trade him for whatever the best package is that you can get. No point in keeping him no matter what the return if he's not going to be part of the future Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S5 using Tapatalk... ignore the typos! Vanek isn't part of the future, and it shouldn't matter if he wants to re-sign this offseason or not, you still trade him to the highest bidder. If we make some moves this summer and we have 2-3 spots open up front, then we can talk about re-signing, but you still trade him today regardless. 2 kliq and brandon27 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,110 Report post Posted March 1, 2017 I hoping for three more sales. Vanek, Sheahan, Nyquist. 2 BadgerBob and F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted March 1, 2017 We just have to ship Sheahan to Toronto and Vanek to Boston and we'll have made a deal with every other original six franchise this trade deadline 2 krsmith17 and F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted March 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, F.Michael said: I like big words. Oh man - if Holland found a sucker buyer for Tinky-Winky. Haha well they were rumored to be interested in him. Probably thought they might be able to get him real cheap.. don't think Holland will actually bite unless he gets a return that takes this season as a fluke though. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted March 1, 2017 Why ya'll just content with Vanek trade? I WANT MORE OF THEM GONE. Ericsson Vanek Green Sheahan 1 LeftWinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BBD10 11 Report post Posted March 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, kickazz said: Why ya'll just content with Vanek trade? I WANT MORE OF THEM GONE. Ericsson Vanek Green Sheahan I would love to trade away Green and Sheahan but it has to come for the right prices. Unfortunately Sheahan's numbers arent matching up this year to that 1st round pick Holland wants. I wouldnt take anything less than that for him either. In order for a team to grab Green, there has to be two 1st +prospect or a really special young buck on the table. He is the anchor of our D and not an UFA. At this point, I dont see anyone matching what we need for Green but hey, you never know. Sheahan maybe could but I also doubt that too thanks to his goalless season. We arent giving players away. We still need to get what they are worth or we are screwing ourselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted March 1, 2017 I think the Leafs got their guy when they traded for Boyle. No interest in Sheahan after that trade. Hoping Vrbata gets traded early today. Price for Vanek should sky rocket after he's off the board... 2 brandon27 and e_prime reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FireCaptain 563 Report post Posted March 1, 2017 Fill-ah-POOL-a nixed a trade to go work for Iron Mike. Valtteri Filppula rejected a trade to Toronto this week. Part of a bigger trade with Brian Boyle. #tvasports 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasper84 333 Report post Posted March 1, 2017 Does anyone know of where we can watch the tradecenter stream in the US today? Is the NHL streaming it again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
