kliq 3,763 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 3 hours ago, LeftWinger said: Trade Vanek for a 1st, Smith for a 3rd and turn those two picks plus a player (Nyquist) to St. Louis for Shattenkirk. Keep our 1st, draft future star... How is it not done yet? So trading AA for Trouba, Subban, Weber, OEL is off the table for you. But trading a 1st, 3rd, and Nyquist for a UFA is a good idea? You have lost your right to rip on Ken Holland lol. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fedorovfan 25 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 I just saw that the Maple Leafs are "interested" in Mike Green Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 28 minutes ago, Fedorovfan said: I just saw that the Maple Leafs are "interested" in Mike Green Nikita Zaitsev please Really though? where did you see this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 14 hours ago, joesuffP said: Anybody here drunk right now? I find this hilarious. Am sober though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 2 hours ago, amato said: Yeah it would definitely take a little more cap management. I am a pretty big fan of more offensive defensemen though, so maybe i over value him a little bit.. but I think he'd be worth it. He's a very good player. Yes. I think he'll be gone then re-signed in free agency; hopefully to not too long of a contract.. 2, maybe 3 years at a decent cap hit. Khan seems to think that won't happen. Basically said flat out in one of his latest pieces that Vanek enjoyed his time here,but he's not coming back. Will sign a longer deal at much bigger price with a contender. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Khan seems to think that won't happen. Basically said flat out in one of his latest pieces that Vanek enjoyed his time here,but he's not coming back. Will sign a longer deal at much bigger price with a contender. I'm okay with this. I don't think he has been as amaze-balls as some here seem to think. I'd like to either sign another guy on a cheap, one year contract, similar to Vanek and hope he exceeds expectations, and flip him at the deadline for pick(s) / prospect(s), or just go full on youth movement. Regardless, Vanek MUST be traded at the deadline to the highest bidder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Khan seems to think that won't happen. Basically said flat out in one of his latest pieces that Vanek enjoyed his time here,but he's not coming back. Will sign a longer deal at much bigger price with a contender. I wouldn't be surprised about him wanting to sign with a contender but at a bigger price seems a bit iffy considering where contenders usually stand with cap space. I could see him signing a decent deal with the islanders to play with Tavares Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 30 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: I'm okay with this. I don't think he has been as amaze-balls as some here seem to think. I'd like to either sign another guy on a cheap, one year contract, similar to Vanek and hope he exceeds expectations, and flip him at the deadline for pick(s) / prospect(s), or just go full on youth movement. Regardless, Vanek MUST be traded at the deadline to the highest bidder. I think he's been our best player outside of Zetterberg, but yeah I'm ok with it. 29 minutes ago, amato said: I wouldn't be surprised about him wanting to sign with a contender but at a bigger price seems a bit iffy considering where contenders usually stand with cap space. I could see him signing a decent deal with the islanders to play with Tavares I think he gets at least 4 mil AAV and probably something like a 3 year contract? Contenders will have more money when UFA roles around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 35 minutes ago, amato said: I wouldn't be surprised about him wanting to sign with a contender but at a bigger price seems a bit iffy considering where contenders usually stand with cap space. I could see him signing a decent deal with the islanders to play with Tavares He already had a stint with the Islanders and he refused to sign with them. And that was when they were doing better. I don't know why he would sign with them now especially with Tavares set to be a UFA after next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, PavelValerievichDatsyuk said: He already had a stint with the Islanders and he refused to sign with them. And that was when they were doing better. I don't know why he would sign with them now especially with Tavares set to be a UFA after next year. Didn't Vanek, Visnovsky, and Wisniewski all do that to the islanders in a short period of time? Garth Snow is such a moron. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 6 minutes ago, PavelValerievichDatsyuk said: He already had a stint with the Islanders and he refused to sign with them. And that was when they were doing better. I don't know why he would sign with them now especially with Tavares set to be a UFA after next year. Ah that's right. I forgot about that stint.. I don't really see Tavares leaving the isles. I'd like him to because I think he's wasted enough of his career, but I don't see it happening. 2 PavelValerievichDatsyuk and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 10 minutes ago, amato said: Ah that's right. I forgot about that stint.. I don't really see Tavares leaving the isles. I'd like him to because I think he's wasted enough of his career, but I don't see it happening. Yeah he seems pretty loyal to the Franchise, despite their complete ineptitude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) Semi deadline related a little maybe? blues fans do not seem happy with this.. a lot of "this better be a sign then trade" comments haha Edited February 24, 2017 by amato Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 Just realized the Rags don't have a 2nd round pick this year. How about a 2017 3rd rounder and Adam Clendening? (Just for the lols with Ken and Mick saying Glendening and Clendening) We already have 8 picks this year though, in a weak draft, and were probably getting more. How does everyone feel about trading for 2018 picks instead? Do we have that level of patience at LGW? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 24 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Just realized the Rags don't have a 2nd round pick this year. How about a 2017 3rd rounder and Adam Clendening? (Just for the lols with Ken and Mick saying Glendening and Clendening) We already have 8 picks this year though, in a weak draft, and were probably getting more. How does everyone feel about trading for 2018 picks instead? Do we have that level of patience at LGW? If we're tanking lets tank hard and go for broke next year too. Keep Blash on for one more year. Put Sheahan on the first line. Touch the corn-baller. 1 greenrebellion reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FireCaptain 563 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 Greg WyshynskiVerified account@wyshynski Following More As of now, there are 143 Fs making more than $3.85M against cap, for comparison's sake. This is essentially Darren Helm money for Berglund. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 Can't believe some people are surprised that Shattenkirk's camp nixed the deal this is his chance to cash in big and finally decide where he wants to play. Players of his caliber aren't going to give up this chance easily. I mean, there are chances he would have landed somewhere where he doesn't want to play and then have to play there for the next 7 years. TSN and SN are for sure trying to hype this thing up but like last year not a lot is going to happen. Duchene, Landeskog is more material for the off season and Hopefully Holland is working the phones hard and sells Vanek, Green and other veterans before opponents decide to sell some biggere names. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Toledo 233 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 6 hours ago, krsmith17 said: Why would we give all that up for a pending UFA? Shattenkirk will in all likelihood test free agency. Why not make the two trades you suggested, keep the picks and go after Shattenkirk this summer? If we gave up any assets, let alone any of Larkin, Mantha or Athanasiou for a month of Shattenkirk this place would implode... That's the sort of trade a Cup contender makes, not a team in contention for the number one pick... Right, I was implying that we shouldn't make that trade if they're asking for anything like Larkin, etc. If Kenny really wants him then I think that a trade might be the only way because I doubt he would come to Detroit as a free agent. Trading for him and trying to reach a deal before July would be a safer bet. But yeah, not a trade we would really need to make right now. 1 ChristopherReevesLegs reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 43 minutes ago, frankgrimes said: Can't believe some people are surprised that Shattenkirk's camp nixed the deal this is his chance to cash in big and finally decide where he wants to play. Players of his caliber aren't going to give up this chance easily. I mean, there are chances he would have landed somewhere where he doesn't want to play and then have to play there for the next 7 years. TSN and SN are for sure trying to hype this thing up but like last year not a lot is going to happen. Duchene, Landeskog is more material for the off season and Hopefully Holland is working the phones hard and sells Vanek, Green and other veterans before opponents decide to sell some biggere names. Who exactly are you referring to? TSN and SN reported the story but didn't say anything about being surprised he rejected it or that he should have accepted it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 Sounds like Drew Stafford is on the block in Winnipeg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) Eaves to the ducks edit: don't know why the tweet won't show properly but here's what McKenzie quoted: https://mobile.twitter.com/starsinsideedge/status/835236613760364545 Conditional second round pick good job Jim Nill. Great deal for the stars. Edited February 24, 2017 by amato Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, amato said: Eaves to the ducks https://mobile.twitter.com/starsinsideedge/status/835236613760364545 good job Jim Nill. Great deal for the stars. Wow Nill really made the most of that Cole/Eaves trade Edited February 24, 2017 by ChristopherReevesLegs We traded Eaves for Legwand. I am stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) Did not expect that one. Good for Jurco to a fresh start. Wonder how much playing time he gets this year with them. Edited February 24, 2017 by PavelValerievichDatsyuk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyukian-Deke 722 Report post Posted February 24, 2017 I wonder if Eaves being off the table makes Vanek a favorite to a land in Chicago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
