Richdg 267 Report post Posted November 12, 2016 Over the last 10 seasons, 1 team has scored over 300 goals. Over the last 10 seasons the majority (6-4) SC winners had at least 1 30 goal scorer. Yes scoring is down overall-the league is crap now and going to get worse with more teams. That of course just makes us look worse. In a bad league are are at best a .500 team. I miss the 80's. We had goals and fights and a ton more fun in the NHL! This crap is boring........ 1 AtlantaHotWings reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted November 13, 2016 22 hours ago, Richdg said: Over the last 10 seasons, 1 team has scored over 300 goals. Over the last 10 seasons the majority (6-4) SC winners had at least 1 30 goal scorer. Yes scoring is down overall-the league is crap now and going to get worse with more teams. That of course just makes us look worse. In a bad league are are at best a .500 team. I miss the 80's. We had goals and fights and a ton more fun in the NHL! This crap is boring........ Actually, it should be even more than 6-4 over the past 10 years. Of those 4 that didn't have a 30 goal scorer, it's really only 1 that didn't have one if you think about it. The other 3 went like this: 1 - a 29 goal scorer and a 27 goal scorer (27 goals in 72 games though...so that's really a legit 30 goal guy) 2 - a 28 goal scorer and a 27 goal scorer (27 goals in 61 games though...same story, that's really a legit 30 goal guy) 3 - this was the lockout year, there were actually 3 guys that would have easily had more than 30 over 82 games, 2 guys that would have flirted with 40. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richdg 267 Report post Posted November 21, 2016 Now that MANtha is up the title needs to be "Watch MANtha". So I have been. TBH he has been one of our best players since coming up. Doing the things he does well: shooting the puck, passing, retrieving the puck out of the corners etc... Even his D has been solid-his supposed weak spot. Hist goal yesterday was classic MANtha and shows how he should be used. He started off right of the goal ripped a hard shot that went to the glass, went behind the net and retrieved the puck, came back out in front to the left side and fired a great shot into the net. Those are the things he can do that no one else on our team can. if that was Nyquist what would have happened? he would have been knocked down to the ice. That is also how MANtha needs to be used. he needs to setup up 15-20 ft out in front of the net in a spot he can either shot the puck or drive the net with the puck. That is how he scores. Using him as a front of net guy is not his strength. Yes he can do it but that is not putting a guy in a position to be their best. On the PP Abby should be in front of the net, MANtha in the slot, The Larkin and the Dmen on the outside controlling the puck with passing and skating looking for the good scoring chances. 2 derblaueClaus and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted November 22, 2016 TSN's mock expansion draft has Mantha going to LV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,763 Report post Posted November 22, 2016 24 minutes ago, toby91_ca said: TSN's mock expansion draft has Mantha going to LV. I feel like this board would explode. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted November 22, 2016 26 minutes ago, toby91_ca said: TSN's mock expansion draft has Mantha going to LV. What makes the folks at TSN think Mantha would be left unprotected? 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,228 Report post Posted November 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, marcaractac said: What makes the folks at TSN think Mantha would be left unprotected? Would it surprise you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Dabura said: Would it surprise you? Obviously, it would. Even Holland wouldn't lose Mantha for nothing. Especially when you consider the times' teams have asked for him in a trade and he said no. Edited November 22, 2016 by marcaractac Grammar 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,228 Report post Posted November 22, 2016 Just now, marcaractac said: Obviously, it would. Even Holland wouldn't lose Mantha for anything. Especially when you consider the times' teams have asked for him in a trade and he said no. I guess my attitude these days is "Hope for the best, expect the worst." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted November 22, 2016 35 minutes ago, marcaractac said: What makes the folks at TSN think Mantha would be left unprotected? I'd have to go back and check....they did a mock "who would each team protect" forecast earlier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,763 Report post Posted November 22, 2016 I thought the narrative around here was that Holland is in love with his kids and refuses to get rid of them? It would shock me and make me incredibly angry if Holland didnt protect Mantha. I just can't see it. 2 krsmith17 and PavelValerievichDatsyuk reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacksoni 418 Report post Posted November 22, 2016 32 minutes ago, Dabura said: Would it surprise you? Liked your tune in the other thread better. Come on now. 0% chance of that happening. Reality check please. Let's just observe our demise this season and see what follows. Holland or any other GM would be forced to alter team structure for the younger. What shape that will take we'll only know come august. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,228 Report post Posted November 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, kliq said: I thought the narrative around here was that Holland is in love with his kids and refuses to get rid of them? He refuses to get rid of them and then loses them on waivers for nothing or trades them for Dennis Seidenberg at the trade deadline. 3 minutes ago, Jacksoni said: Liked your tune in the other thread better. Come on now. 0% chance of that happening. Reality check please. I'm only being half-serious here. I don't actually believe we're going to lose Mantha to LV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,763 Report post Posted November 22, 2016 23 minutes ago, Dabura said: He refuses to get rid of them and then loses them on waivers for nothing or trades them for Dennis Seidenberg at the trade deadline. Come on....we're talking Nestresil, Frk, and Pulkkinen. Two of which were waived by the teams that picked them up. They had zero value. Mantha is in a completely different class and is a completely different situation. This is what I mean when I talk about hyperbole. 2 Son of a Wing and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,228 Report post Posted November 22, 2016 8 minutes ago, kliq said: Come on....we're talking Nestresil, Frk, and Pulkkinen. Two of which were waived by the teams that picked them up. They had zero value. Mantha is in a completely different class and is a completely different situation. This is what I mean when I talk about hyperbole. Again, I don't think I'm taking this quite as seriously as you guys are. I suppose I shouldn't have said anything in the first place, but, well, I'm bored. What I'm trying to say is that Holland will definitely trade Mantha and Athanasiou for Roman Polak. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted December 1, 2016 On 11/22/2016 at 0:46 PM, Dabura said: Again, I don't think I'm taking this quite as seriously as you guys are. I suppose I shouldn't have said anything in the first place, but, well, I'm bored. What I'm trying to say is that Holland will definitely trade Mantha and Athanasiou for Roman Polak. Sure Polak has some weight to him, but we're not trading big bodies like Mantha for him. Mantha is the new Franzen. He will be elite, but people will still moan cause "truculence" and "streakiness" 1 Wheelchairsuperhero reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheelchairsuperhero 1,453 Report post Posted December 1, 2016 13 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Sure Polak has some weight to him, but we're not trading big bodies like Mantha for him. Mantha is the new Franzen. He will be elite, but people will still moan cause "truculence" and "streakiness" Agree with your post, but I think(?) Dabura was being sarcastic. Also, are you the anti-me? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted December 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, Wheelchairsuperhero said: Agree with your post, but I think(?) Dabura was being sarcastic. Also, are you the anti-me? Yes. I get that he's just playing around. Although if you ask my b**** wife she'll tell you sarcasm is completely lost on me. She can pound sand. 1 Wheelchairsuperhero reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,065 Report post Posted December 1, 2016 Mantha the new Franzen.....God I hope not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted December 1, 2016 1 hour ago, LeftWinger said: Mantha the new Franzen.....God I hope not. We should feel lucky if Mantha ever makes it to Franzen level production. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheelchairsuperhero 1,453 Report post Posted December 1, 2016 1 hour ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: We should feel lucky if Mantha ever makes it to Franzen level production. Agreed. Although it's what I expect of him, and I'm excited for when it happens. I've been thinking for a long time about how we miss Franzen. 1 ChristopherReevesLegs reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted December 1, 2016 1 hour ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: We should feel lucky if Mantha ever makes it to Franzen level production. What if Mantha miraculously exceeded Franzen's production, will you and Lefty finally get along ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted December 1, 2016 52 minutes ago, kickazz said: What if Mantha miraculously exceeded Franzen's production, will you and Lefty finally get along ? No 2 kickazz and Wheelchairsuperhero reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted December 1, 2016 If Holland is dumb enough to expose Mantha or AA to Vegas I will drive to Detroit and beat him to death with an octopus 4 BadgerBob, ChristopherReevesLegs, Wheelchairsuperhero and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted December 2, 2016 17 minutes ago, DickieDunn said: If Holland is dumb enough to expose Mantha or AA to Vegas I will drive to Detroit and beat him to death with an octopus I will personally strap a tire to my shoe and kick him with it 3 PavelValerievichDatsyuk, swedishconnection and Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites