Signed Glendening signs 4-year, $1.8m AAV extension

[kickazz 5,459]

Sounds like it. I know Datsyuk has inoperable knee issues too. Kronwalls could be worse though.

Edited July 14, 2016 by kickazz

[RedWingsRox 614]

Calm down people, it's fine ... this isn't a Franzen contract. Not bad $$, tradeable contract ... now we just have to find a taker for Howie.

Edited July 14, 2016 by RedWingsRox

[Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029]

I like Glendening, but the money and term on this one have got to leave you scratching your head. Why did he need that big of a pay raise?

Howard and/or Ericsson need to get dealt and at least one defenseman needs to be brought in, otherwise this summer is looking like a major bust.

Calm down people, it's fine ... this isn't a Franzen contract. Not bad $$, tradeable contract ... now we just have to find a taker for Howie.

A fourth liner making just shy of $2 million/year might not be as easy of a sell as one might think.

Edited July 14, 2016 by Bring Back The Bruise Bros

[marcaractac 3,963]

There are contracts that hurt this team. This absolutely is not one of them. He has played under two coaches with this team and they both love having him. Maybe, just maybe they know a little more about what he brings than we do?

He can skate, very good on the draw, and is very efficient in shutting down opponents best players. Especially in the playoffs. He is also good for chipping in 20 points along the way. He makes very few mistakes. He is exactly what you want as a 4th line center.

If a kid comes and outperforms him at that 4C role, the contract is absolutely movable. Hell, in the 2008 playoff run we had Mark ******* Hartigan in the lineup at times. It's safe to say disney.com has been the best 4th line center we've had in some time. Even comparable to the last time we've experienced success. Glad he is sticking around.

[DickieDunn 2,571]

Draper was a good shut down defender. The grind line wasn't constantly penned in the D zone like Glendening and Miller are. Just because he defends all the time doesn't mean he's a shut down center.

And nobody is going to trade for a guy like Glendening., especially at that cap hit

Edited July 15, 2016 by DickieDunn

[marcaractac 3,963]

Salaries have been going up in the league for years. A 4th liner making 1.8 per year is not unheard of this day and age. The only folks who get less than a million these days are those on entry level deals or players who still have something to prove (like Jurco, or any other player fighting for an NHL roster spot). Guys like Matt Martin and Cal Clutterbuck out there are making far more per year. Role players are important, and those who show they can play are gonna get paid. The sooner folks realize this, the less stressful they'll get when this type of new breaks. The cap isnt 39 million any more. Proven players, even 4th liners, aren't gonna be restricted to league minimum anymore. Salaries have gone up across the board. Why should the guys who produce most of the offense be the only guys to get paid more than they used to?

If disney.com hit the market this year along with Matt Martin, you know damn well it would be him getting that 2.5 million per year contract in Toronto instead. This is not me saying disney.com's contract is a steal. This is me saying that a deal like this is par for the course this day and age, as dictated by the market.

Edited July 15, 2016 by marcaractac

[LeftWinger 5,065]

Just wait for the NMC.

[kickazz 5,459]

Just wait for the NMC.

I don't think there is any. Capfriendly has his updated to no NMC/NTC. Only Helm is listed as a questionmark on the NMC/NTC

Edited July 15, 2016 by kickazz

[DickieDunn 2,571]

The issue isn't necessarily about Glendening, it's about having several young forwards who are at least potentially NHL players in the next 2-3 years and Holland handing out 4 year or more contracts to guys who could easily be replaced and refusing to trade anyone else because it's hard.

[kickazz 5,459]

This isn't a Glendog issue- it's a management issue mostly. The log jam is basically becoming a long term one. It will be interesting to see how we deal with all our players who are no longer waiver eligible this year and next year.

[LeftWinger 5,065]

Waive them...thats how they'll be dealt with. Goodbye for free!

[UpstateNYRedWingsFan 42]

"disney.com" hahahah classic

[kickazz 5,459]

Officially Glendogmillionaire like I've been calling this guy. Edited July 15, 2016 by kickazz

[RedWingsRox 614]

$1.8m/yr for 4 ... if this was the NBA, someone like him playing his role on the team would be getting $18m/yr for 4 years.

Edited July 15, 2016 by RedWingsRox

[Dabura 12,228]

$1.8m/yr for 4 ... if this was the NBA, someone like him playing his role on the team would be getting $18m/yr for 4 years.

But this isn't the NBA.

I don't think there is any. Capfriendly has his updated to no NMC/NTC. Only Helm is listed as a questionmark on the NMC/NTC

Kind of a moot point, though, because we know Holland won't trade him.

(Because he's from Michigan.)

[lwing 68]

The issue isn't necessarily about Glendening, it's about having several young forwards who are at least potentially NHL players in the next 2-3 years and Holland handing out 4 year or more contracts to guys who could easily be replaced and refusing to trade anyone else because it's hard.

Exactly. I don't think it is a stretch to say that when it comes to strategic thinking Holland is playing checkers when the real game is chess. Or if he is playing chess, he is overvaluing his pawns and fails to understand he can sacrifice two or three for a knight or bishop!

[LeftWinger 5,065]

The reason I say NMC for him and Helm is they will want to make sure they cannot get claimed and Holland being the idiot he is will give them it and be forced to leave better, younger players unprotected. But that's ok with Holland, because he's an idiot. With the expansion draft coming up there should be NO NMC on this roster. We have to protect our future, not Helm and Glenny. Nor Nielsen for that matter. They can't all get claimed, but why risk a Jurco, for example because you are forced to protect 4th liners with NMC'S?

I hope and pray neither of these 4th liners have to be protected.

[krsmith17 7,191]

I highly doubt Helm's contract has a NMC, and I guarantee Glendening's contract does not...

[LeftWinger 5,065]

I hope neither of them do! We'll see!

[Jacksoni 418]

I don't like defending Glendening's contract since I would have liked to see it a little bit lower, perhaps 1.5million x 3 years. But I will defend it.

He is entering his prime and will on a nighly basis be asked to defend against Crosby, Kopitar, McJesus, Benn, Stamkos and on and on.

Who would you put against them instead of Glendog. Zetterberg? Larkin? Nielsen? Helm? He's too small. Shehan could I suppose but other than that, I can't see anyone. And I personally want Sheahan on a more offensive line. He's ready to move up.

To regurgitate, it's an ok signing in my opinion. Not great but certainly not bad.

[kickazz 5,459]

Nielsen is a player put against top players. That's his job. He drew the toughest matchups for the Islanders.

So the answer is Nielsen.

http://www.lighthousehockey.com/2010/7/20/1577993/grading-the-islanders-frans (bit of an older article but it still stands)

Edited July 15, 2016 by kickazz

[kickazz 5,459]

This is another reason why I don't agree with people who think Glendog is extremely valuable. Much like Zetterberg in the 2000s, Frans Nielsen is the type of player that will draw the toughest matchups and score a crap ton too (obviously not as much as Z did). Nielsen is also an excellent penalty killer. (one of the most used players on PK)

Signing Nielsen makes players like Glendening theoretically obsolete. But obviously management still wants to utilize Glendog and help share Nielsens burden. Which might be a decent idea.

What makes me happy about the Nielsen signing is we will finally see another top 6 player when theres 1 minute left to play the game in the 3rd to try to hold onto the lead instead of Miller or Glendog who for the life of them can't keep the puck away from out net and are forced to block shots.

....And when Howard is in goal we get scored on and everyone on LGW collapses.

I'm thinking a combo of Nielsen, Glendog (for the faceoff), Abdelkader/Larkin to help close out games. Unless Zetterberg magically starts winning 54% of faceoffs again then we'll likely see him over Glendog on the faceoff circle. There were times last year when Blashill opted to put Datsyuk on the faceoffs in the 3rd rather than Glendog because Datsyuk went through a stretch where he was destroying everyone on the faceoff circle.

Edited July 15, 2016 by kickazz

[Echolalia 2,961]

Exactly. I don't think it is a stretch to say that when it comes to strategic thinking Holland is playing checkers when the real game is chess. Or if he is playing chess, he is overvaluing his pawns and fails to understand he can sacrifice two or three for a knight or bishop!

Or five for a rook? 😏

[DickieDunn 2,571]

But this isn't the NBA.

Kind of a moot point, though, because we know Holland won't trade him.

(Because he's from Michigan.)

Holland won't trade him because he's Ken Holland and trading is hard

Or five for a rook?

Holland names all of his pawns and just can't bring himself to lit Bradley die in battle

[kickazz 5,459]

I'll also add that last year Glendog actually didn't matchup against opponent top lines all that much. Especially not when Datsyuk came back from injury. The few times he was matched up against top players was against Stamkos in the regular season games where he did a good job.

The other time Glendening was matched up against a top line was against Alexander Ovechkin (who managed to get 15 f****** shots on goal and break the godam shot record on Mrazek).

And guess what Blashill did the next game against the Caps... Didn't put Glendog against Ovie's line lol. Ended up putting Datsyuk's line against Ovie.

Edited July 15, 2016 by kickazz