Signed Glendening signs 4-year, $1.8m AAV extension

[romagoth 47]

Why are people bitching about this?? Does everyone forget that his injury lost us the 2015 series with the lightning. He owned tyler Johnson ala 2009 zetterberg on Crosby. People need to remember that it isn't 2006 anymore and 1.8 million for a 4th liner is not a bad deal.

I hope you are joking or trolling. If not....smdh

[Dabura 12,228]

I cant wait for other GM's to lowball KH on every trade offer this offseason as they know he HAS to make a trade.

He's going to re-sign Quincey. That'll be his excuse for not making a trade.

"Well, we feel Kyle Quincey is a real good player in this league. Real good defensively. Heavy on the puck. Big body. Plays with a bit of an edge. He can play on any pairing. He's versatile like that. We feel he's a real important part of our team and he's going to continue to be one as we move forward and compete for a Cup."

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[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

You guys are gonna love it when Miller is resigned next June for 4 years

Edited July 14, 2016 by nyqvististhefuture

[romagoth 47]

Glendening led all of our forwards in blocked shots by a huge margin, took the most faceoffs on our team and won 54.6% of them. You don't improve defensively by losing a guy like that. This is a good signing by Holland.

Blocked shots is one of the worst metrics in hockey. If you are blocking a lot of shots then you don't have the puck, if you don't have the puck you aren't scoring, and if you aren't scoring you aren't winning.

This is a terrible contract in a growing list of them.

He's going to re-sign Quincey. That'll be his excuse for not making a trade.

"Well, we feel Kyle Quincey is a real good player in this league. Real good defensively. Heavy on the puck. Big body. Plays with a bit of an edge. He can play on any pairing. He's versatile like that. We feel he's a real important part of our team and he's going to continue to be one as we move forward and compete for a Cup."

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I actually pictured Kenny saying this as I read it. Very well done.

[NerveDamage 4,176]

[DRW Dominance 255]

this signing is funny as s***. Holland has lost his mind. waaaaaaaaay too much $ for Luke

[Hockeymom1960 5,107]

Lol all the bitching. I'm fine with it.

[PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935]

I like Glendening. It's a bit too much money, but I'm not sure why people are complaining about the 4 year term. 27 year old players that could be UFAs don't usually sign contracts that short. He'll be 32 at the end of it - we'll get his best years.

Also, something that might be considered for context in the overpayment is that Glendening's previous cahit (628.333) and salary was ridiculously low - if you think of it as back payment the 2 contracts probably equal out to a fair amount for cool hand Luke.

[DickieDunn 2,571]

We have a lit if good young forwards in the minors and juniors, so I'm going to give a bunch of mid and low keep NHL players long term deals so the kids can't make the team. - Ken Holland

[kickazz 5,459]

I like Glendening. It's a bit too much money, but I'm not sure why people are complaining about the 4 year term. 27 year old players that could be UFAs don't usually sign contracts that short. He'll be 32 at the end of it - we'll get his best years.

Would be fine if this team was a contender. Sort of like when we kept Draper and Maltby. If things get even worse a lot of these contracts are long term and will be unmovable.

I think keeping Luke for 2 more years and then judging to see if a re-signing is valuable to the squad would have been the better approach. Safe approach. It seems like Holland is going all in for a lot of the current players and it's very risky management.

Edited July 14, 2016 by kickazz

[brett 1,029]

team isnt going to change much next 4 years. everyone signed long term. get use to them

[DickieDunn 2,571]

I like Glendening. It's a bit too much money, but I'm not sure why people are complaining about the 4 year term. 27 year old players that could be UFAs don't usually sign contracts that short. He'll be 32 at the end of it - we'll get his best years.

Also, something that might be considered for context in the overpayment is that Glendening's previous cahit (628.333) and salary was ridiculously low - if you think of it as back payment the 2 contracts probably equal out to a fair amount for cool hand Luke.

Glendening is a plug. He's easily replaceable. Now they're stuck with him even if he gets passed by a bunch of younger guts because nobody will want him in a trade

[krsmith17 7,191]

I don't see how Turgeon or Nastasiuk wouldn't be an upgrade over Glendening in the next 5 years...

[marcaractac 3,963]

Glendening is a plug. He's easily replaceable. Now they're stuck with him even if he gets passed by a bunch of younger guts because nobody will want him in a trade

Toronto would take him in a heartbeat

[Euro_Twins 4,485]

Yeah, after reading about the extension I went to check out our cap situation and it's pretty ugly. Bad contracts, and a lot of long contracts. I really hope George McPhee likes Howard and Ericsson....

I thought each team can only lose 1 player?

[romagoth 47]

I like Glendening. It's a bit too much money, but I'm not sure why people are complaining about the 4 year term. 27 year old players that could be UFAs don't usually sign contracts that short. He'll be 32 at the end of it - we'll get his best years.

Also, something that might be considered for context in the overpayment is that Glendening's previous cahit (628.333) and salary was ridiculously low - if you think of it as back payment the 2 contracts probably equal out to a fair amount for cool hand Luke.

Hate to break it to you, but we have already seen his best years. Hockey players tend to hit their peak between ages 23-25. Glendy is already past that age and he is not going to get better; he will only get worse. This contract will become another albatross around the organization's neck as they try to "rebuild on the fly".

[kylee 727]

Why sign him for 4 years? I remember when I thought that was a long contract.

[WingsallTheway 383]

Hate to break it to you, but we have already seen his best years. Hockey players tend to hit their peak between ages 23-25. Glendy is already past that age and he is not going to get better; he will only get worse. This contract will become another albatross around the organization's neck as they try to "rebuild on the fly".

That is completely false

Peak age is 26-30 both physically and mentally. Its more of a case-by-case basis but there is no way players are best at 23. If I have a good player at that age i get really excited because there is ample room for growth

Especially in the case of a defensive player, the mental game is half the battle. You have to try things and gain experience to shut guys down, so Glendenning will get better

Edited July 14, 2016 by WingsallTheway

[kickazz 5,459]

If we miss the playoffs in 2017, these long term contracts will automatically look even worse.

Edited July 14, 2016 by kickazz

[PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935]

Would be fine if this team was a contender. Sort of like when we kept Draper and Maltby. If things get even worse a lot of these contracts are long term and will be unmovable.

I think keeping Luke for 2 more years and then judging to see if a re-signing is valuable to the squad would have been the better approach. Safe approach. It seems like Holland is going all in for a lot of the current players and it's very risky management.

An umoveable 1.8 mill isn't a big deal to me. I'm more concerned about the Nielson deal - though it could end being good and have liked what I've heard about him. If we need to retool the roster, it will be Nielson, Howard, and Ericsson's big deals that get in the way.

We have loaded up with expensive lower line deals (MIler, Ott, Glen, Helm) which isn't smart, but hopefully Mill and Ott are just for this year (unrealistically, I hope they both end up in AHL by the end of this season).

Glendening is a plug. He's easily replaceable. Now they're stuck with him even if he gets passed by a bunch of younger guts because nobody will want him in a trade

I know you call all lower line players plugs, but Glendening is good a faceoffs and in the shutdown role on elite players. That isn't that common. Many young players would be made foolish against Crosby or Stamkos. And 21 pts. is good for a 4th liner. But, yes, we could get another servicable 4th line center easily - We had Emmerton, Andersson. And I'm sure Turgeon might do fine, but we don't know that for sure and all young players have the transition year(s) so why not keep the guy that we know is really good at the role.

I know what I described is what others have complained about - blocking the youth, but Glendening's only 27 - that's prime hockey - the one's we should be worried about blocking youth are the older signings like Miller and Ott.

But anyway, I think we'll have plenty of turnover in the next few years:

Kronwall gone in 3 (though the news of his inoperable knee suggests maybe less)

Green has 2 years left

Smith 1 year left (we'll see what happens)

Pulkkinen, Jurco, Vanek, MIller, Ott, all have questionable futures upfront (many I think won't be around past this year)

Mantha, Bertuzzi, Svech, on the team soon.

[TheWolf 20]

I'm dumbfounded. I like him, but that is a stuppppid contract. We tripled his pay? For four years?!?!? Jesus. If we really felt he needed a new one, why not 1.1 million, for 2 years? I don't get the money or the years. The Red Wings love guys with "intangibles", and apparently we are just going to load up on those guys and ignore the little thing called the "scoreboard".

For the record I LIKE Luke too.

[kickazz 5,459]

An umoveable 1.8 mill isn't a big deal to me. I'm more concerned about the Nielson deal - though it could end being good and have liked what I've heard about him. If we need to retool the roster, it will be Nielson, Howard, and Ericsson's big deals that get in the way.

We have loaded up with expensive lower line deals (MIler, Ott, Glen, Helm) which isn't smart, but hopefully Mill and Ott are just for this year (unrealistically, I hope they both end up in AHL by the end of this season).

$1.8 million isn't a big deal. The sum of the parts is what concerns me. Including Nielsen, Howard and Ericsson like you say.

[Echolalia 2,961]

Who knows maybe Glendening will earn the money over his term. The more I think about it the less the contract bothers me.

[kickazz 5,459]

Kronwall gone in 3 (though the news of his inoperable knee suggests maybe less)

Wait really?

[PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935]

Wait really?

Maybe that was a misleading way of describing it. There was a article I read recently (that I can't find, but will try some more) that said he looked into surgery for his knee problems that kept him out a bit this past year. The doctor's told him surgery wasn't an option and Holland said he's going to look into changing his training methods. To me, the impression I got was it's the Cleary path of a deteriorating knee.

Edit: Couldn't find the article, but here's one of him talking about his knee rehab.

http://kuklaskorner.com/tmr/comments/roughly-translated-niklas-kronwall-talks-about-rehabbing-his-knee-and-the-w

I also read an article where he's asked about early retirement and he shut it down immediately saying he wants to play as long as possible - So maybe I was wrong to suggest that he might not last the rest of his contract, but I'd guess that he'll miss games each year and that will be opportunity for the younger D men.

Edited July 14, 2016 by PavelValerievichDatsyuk