sputman 1,268 Report post Posted November 1, 2015 Get a haircut kid! Maybe that's what Kapanen said to set him off. 2 Izzy24 and AtlantaHotWings reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoalieManPat 1,007 Report post Posted November 1, 2015 Had his last name been something other than Bertuzzi than nobody would care. Young kid does something stupid this isn't new. Part of development in the AHL is learning what to and not to do. 3 krsmith17, Hockeymom1960 and Internet.Unknown reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sputman 1,268 Report post Posted November 1, 2015 I don't like the play but I'll be honest, I'm excited to finally have some mean in our system. 1 SiLkK19 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miksteri 55 Report post Posted November 1, 2015 2 game ban for Bertuzzi, how does an AHL ban affect his NHL promotion? or will sit his ban when/if hes back in AHL? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,485 Report post Posted November 1, 2015 2 game ban for Bertuzzi, how does an AHL ban affect his NHL promotion? or will sit his ban when/if hes back in AHL? He hasn't been promoted. So it doesn't really matter, but had he been promoted I think he would sit when he returned Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Lime 234 Report post Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) I like it. Need a little bit of nasty on this soft team. Most current Red Wings wouldn't dare cut off the mattress tag, and if they did they would probably turn themselves in the next day. Edited November 1, 2015 by Hairy Lime 3 WingsAlways, AtlantaHotWings and wings1110 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted November 1, 2015 He hasn't been promoted. So it doesn't really matter, but had he been promoted I think he would sit when he returnedSuspensions carry over from last be league to the other Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted November 1, 2015 I like it Wings are way too soft and it's about time someone is finally showing some truculence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings1110 184 Report post Posted November 2, 2015 This isn't as bad as Chris Neils behavior last night. But I'd also like to have Chris Neil on the wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted November 2, 2015 This isn't as bad as Chris Neils behavior last night. But I'd also like to have Chris Neil on the wings. Neil purposely injured datsyuk.I don't want him, even if he'd help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckbags 863 Report post Posted November 2, 2015 I like it Wings are way too soft and it's about time someone is finally showing some truculence. A dirty slew foot is truculence? More like stupidity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,763 Report post Posted November 2, 2015 A dirty slew foot is truculence? More like stupidity. It actually is truculence, the misconception is that truculence is a good thing. With the definition below, Bertuzzi on Moore, McSorley on Brashear, Weber on Zetterberg etc are all truculent acts. I'm all for guys sticking up for a teammate, but guys just wanting to hurt people because of impulse control issues, is not something I am a fan of. adjective adjective: truculent eager or quick to argue or fight; aggressively defiant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krayzie_Bone 58 Report post Posted November 2, 2015 You do not win with clowns like this on the team anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted November 2, 2015 You do not win with clowns like this on the team anymore. Actually you can. Jamie Benn (who fit into this clown category) is leading in points and goals in the league and his team is currently ranked 1 in the western conference. Shea Weber's team's not doing too bad either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings4thecup06 504 Report post Posted November 2, 2015 While Bertuzzi needs to dial it down a notch, its these kind of guys who play with a little bit of a feisty edge that the Wings really need IMO. Just watch our games with the sole purpose of looking for Wings players INITIATING body contact. There really isn't a lot of it. Ironically, when Z and Datsyuk throw their bodies around, the results are good. Take a look at the great Wings teams that most of us on this board grew up with. Guys like Maltby, McCarty, Kocur, Shanny, Lapointe, Konstantinov. All willing to punish opposing players and rough it up a little to win. Balance that with the sort of high end scoring talent that this team is developing (in guys like Larkin, Nyquist, Tatar etc) and we may be able to go somewhere. Our D is way too soft. Ericsson, if he applied himself physically game in and game out, could be a FORCE. He's huge, and has some serious strength. None of the fights he got into last year were even close. Neil wanted a piece of him saturday, but you can tell he would have got hammered if the refs had let them go. Kronwall hasn't played the body now really in the last few seasons, probably because he's now the number 1 d man and was also the primary offensive D man. I also think that his most recent suspension in the playoffs has signalled the death of anyone getting Kronwalled every again. He's too valuable to the team to miss time over a suspension, and he knows it. This is why Brad Stuart was such a great addition in 07. He played with an edge that the D didn't have and he brought it physically night in night out. I'm not saying the wings need to change everything and go to a bunch of goons, but even 1 hard hitting D man on the back end, and one or two more physical forwards would go a long way in making this team more dangerous. 2 krsmith17 and SiLkK19 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted November 2, 2015 Yeah that's pretty s***ty of him. People do dumb things when they're young.... hopefully he learns from it. At least his flow game is strong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsallTheway 383 Report post Posted November 2, 2015 Actually you can. Jamie Benn (who fit into this clown category) is leading in points and goals in the league and his team is currently ranked 1 in the western conference. Shea Weber's team's not doing too bad either. I don't think we can ever compare Tyler Bertuzzi to Shea Weber and Jamie Benn.... 1 Finnish Wing reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted November 2, 2015 I don't get how anyone can not be excited to see this kid in a Red Wings jersey in a couple years... Bertuzzi has a nose for the net, goes to the dirty areas, wins puck battles, not afraid to play on the edge, all of that to go along with a ton of offensive ability. What's not to be excited about? Sure, he sometimes crosses the line, but he has cleaned up his game a ton, and like someone already mentioned, he is still a young kid that is developing, and learning the ins and outs of being a pro. I missed this game, so I'm not sure exactly what caused Bert to react this way, but what if Kapanen laid a dirty hit or a nasty two hander to one of the Griffins on the previous shift? Would his actions be warranted then? I'm sure some here would still say no, but I like when players stand up for one another. I sure as hell would have loved to see someone do something like this to Bennett after that dirty hit on Quincey, or Stone on Ferraro. Bert likely was out of line here, and I'm sure he had a talking to after the game. I just hope he doesn't clean up his game too much... The Red Wings could definitely use that snarl on their roster. 2 kliq and kickazz reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richdg 267 Report post Posted November 2, 2015 Plays liek this happen in every single hockey game from PeeWee through the NHL. Nothing to get worked up about at all. I would rather have guys doing this type of thing that say getting DUI's and endangering the public or running gambling rings from their houses, or having drug issues, or sexual assaults....... 1 Internet.Unknown reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted November 2, 2015 Plays liek this happen in every single hockey game from PeeWee through the NHL. Nothing to get worked up about at all. I would rather have guys doing this type of thing that say getting DUI's and endangering the public or running gambling rings from their houses, or having drug issues, or sexual assaults....... Well Tinky Winky did that while in GR and now it's forgiven by the fanbase. Young players make mistakes and errors of judgement. Really excited about Lil Bert. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) I don't think we can ever compare Tyler Bertuzzi to Shea Weber and Jamie Benn....Ofcourse not in terms of skill level. But in terms of hitting a 'vunerable' player. I see zero difference.At least with Tyler Bertuzzi's situation the kid he threw down was face to face rather than behind the head.(unlike the Weber/Benn incident) Edited November 2, 2015 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsallTheway 383 Report post Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) Ofcourse not in terms of skill level. But in terms of hitting a 'vunerable' player. I see zero difference. At least with Tyler Bertuzzi's situation the kid he threw down was face to face rather than behind the head.(unlike the Weber/Benn incident) Yeah but the initial argument was that you can't win with players that play such a dirty way Weber and Benn's skillset far exceeds theyre dirty play in a way where it doesn't have a negative impact on the ice for the team Bertuzzi isn't going to pot points in the NHL. All he can do is agitate. Its kind of like Chris Neil making contact with Mrazek last game, that was the turning point of the contest and negatively impacted his team. Having said that, I think Bert has a place in the NHL but what he did here does NOT help a team in any way. Edited November 2, 2015 by WingsallTheway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,802 Report post Posted November 2, 2015 We should trade for Tie Domi's son, draft Darcy Tucker's younger brother and sign Ulf Samuelsson's sister. 1 Detroit \# 1 Fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted November 3, 2015 We should trade for Tie Domi's son, draft Darcy Tucker's younger brother and sign Ulf Samuelsson's sister. And of course, datsyuks son. I don't think he has one yet but we better lock that down early just in case Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,802 Report post Posted November 3, 2015 And of course, datsyuks son. I don't think he has one yet but we better lock that down early just in case I think you missed the joke there bud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites