shoe 165 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 I would like to see an old title brought back to the red wings: Head Coach - Director of Player Personnel. Which was once held by Bowman. I think Babcock has paid his dues and deserves a raise and more responsibility. Holand morphs into - Executive Vice President and Alternate Governor of the Detroit Red Wings Same great minds but with change moving forward, and all part of a great big red wings plan one day Develano Retires Holand moves into his position Babcock moves into the GM position and then we promote the coach in the AHL. I think Holand has been soft and safe and picked up some wishy washy players over the years, I think Babcock as Director of Player Personnel would stop that and maybe make some hard trades, and cuts that may not be popular but would make for a better team. Next year my wishes would be simple a team with more Babcock influence less Holland influence. 4 gcom007, Hockeymom1960, RyanBarnes! and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atodaso 279 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 These are the players I'd like to see stay. Holland and Co. can fill in the blanks... Abdelkader, Datsyuk, Glendening, Helm, Jurco, Miller, Nyquist, Sheahan, Tatar, Zetterberg. DeKeyser, Kronwall, Quincey, Marchenko. Howard, Mrazek. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,802 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 We need some size and some wingers who can score goals. No more Helm or Abby on the top lines. Everyone wants a top pairing defenseman, but I don't see that happening. Phaneuf is an option but I think Toronto would try to keep him instead of letting him go to us. 1 nyqvististhefuture reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,802 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 Forgot to add, we should sign Jon Jones and Brock Lesnar. 1 amato reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 I know on paper Phaneuf makes a fair amount of sense. I've just never liked the guy. He's one of those players for me where my dislike is based mostly on a gut feeling and not anything rational. That he's somehow like a Jack Johnson. A talented guy who on paper should be great, but when you put him in a defense they somehow get worse (thought I think that's changed somewhat for Johnson in Columbus). 3 Hockeymom1960, STL-Wings and LasVegasRocks reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 Fix the D please Top 6 gritty powerforward (I don't think Mantha will be ready next season) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings7 62 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 Should we go after Soderberg? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 This is the first season in awhile that I could honestly see a big shakeup happening. A Phaneuf like trade maybe. 2 nyqvististhefuture and rick zombo reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 Should we go after Soderberg? I was thinking the exact same thing. Players I wouldn't mind Holland looking at: Carl Soderberg Joel Ward Mike Green Colton Orr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 We need to grab a top 4 defenseman this off season, Green would be the dream, but Petry, Franson, or Visnovsky could work.(if he'll take a pay cut). Mike Fisher or Joel Ward would be a good grab forward wise, doubt either is leaving their teams though. 2016 seems like a much better year forward wise in free agency. E. Staal, Kopitar, Lucic, O'Reilly, Stamkos, Kesler, Plekanec, Backes, Eriksson, Ladd, Okposo, Voracek, Ruutu, and Hudler sure deals are going to get done for most this guys, but all it takes is one. Trading is where we'll have to make a splash, we have prospect depth, we need scoring consistency. There are too many possibilities to speculate, but I'm ok with parting with some prospects for some top 6 size and scoring, or top 4 defenseman that can move the puck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,802 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 We need to grab a top 4 defenseman this off season, Green would be the dream, but Petry, Franson, or Visnovsky could work.(if he'll take a pay cut). Mike Fisher or Joel Ward would be a good grab forward wise, doubt either is leaving their teams though. 2016 seems like a much better year forward wise in free agency. E. Staal, Kopitar, Lucic, O'Reilly, Stamkos, Kesler, Plekanec, Backes, Eriksson, Ladd, Okposo, Voracek, Ruutu, and Hudler sure deals are going to get done for most this guys, but all it takes is one. Trading is where we'll have to make a splash, we have prospect depth, we need scoring consistency. There are too many possibilities to speculate, but I'm ok with parting with some prospects for some top 6 size and scoring, or top 4 defenseman that can move the puck. Haven't seen you in a while. I hope Holland isn't around by that 2016 offseason to make a move at any of those guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Liquidsnake 12 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 Phaneuf is the most likely option. We almost had him at the deadline, and I don't think there's a chance in hell he's in Toronto come October. Adding Green or Franson as well would be great. Something like a top 6 of: Kronner/Phaneuf (would be a beastly top 2, love the though of it) DeKeyser/Quincey (these guys were by far our best pair in the playoffs) Smith/???? (Franson could look great here, or just give it to Marchenko) Adding some kind of Top 6 forward would be ideal as well. No idea who though. Trade Howard to Edmonton for Nugent-Hopkins? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 Kindl gone and Wayne Simmonds in the top 6? 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ekmanc 586 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 Not sure I want Phaneuf on the top pairing, he is way too prone to mistakes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,802 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 Not sure I want Phaneuf on the top pairing, he is way too prone to mistakes. So he's like Ericsson except he can actually shoot? 1 Izzy24 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 Holland will need to go out and get a big body top 6 winger with Franzens career in jeopardy. Need an impact player on defense... I like the idea of Phaneuf, Kronwall, Deke, and Q as a top 4, that's a pretty mean defense actually Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,732 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 The realistic thing I'd like to see is the Wings signing a decent defenseman, and Drew Stafford. The unrealistic thing I'd like to see is the Wings trade Gustav Nyquist for Ryan O'Reilly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ekmanc 586 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 So he's like Ericsson except he can actually shoot?He's much worse. But yeah I forgot he's a euro wuss so of course you have to hate on him a little... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BottleOfSmoke 5,965 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 The unrealistic thing I'd like to see is the Wings trade Gustav Nyquist for Ryan O'Reilly. I...I would weep with joy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 So he's like Ericsson except he can actually shoot? and gets paid $3 million more per year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 (edited) The realistic thing I'd like to see is the Wings signing a decent defenseman, and Drew Stafford. The unrealistic thing I'd like to see is the Wings trade Gustav Nyquist for Ryan O'Reilly. Umm not high on stafford ... No problem with o reilly the player but his 6 million salary is ridiculous and gets paid $3 million more per year.Phaneuf will not get traded to any team unless leafs eat at least in the ballpark of 2 mill per I was thinking the exact same thing.Players I wouldn't mind Holland looking at: Carl Soderberg Joel Ward Mike Green Colton Orr Soderberg's game has dropped though ... I remember McGuire on the radio saying he couldn't believe how he thought hed take his game to the next level to helped bruins overcome losing iginla and he just hasn't. ProducedKindl gone and Wayne Simmonds in the top 6?I wishIt'll take a lot more than kindl to land simmonds On a sidenote .. If we trade weiss the only option I can see in return for getting rid of him is Phaneuf Edited April 30, 2015 by nyqvististhefuture Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atodaso 279 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 So he's like Ericsson except he can actually shoot? And hit, and block shots, and fight. On a sidenote .. If we trade weiss the only option I can see in return for getting rid of him is Phaneuf I'd take that deal straight up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 He's much worse. But yeah I forgot he's a euro wuss so of course you have to hate on him a little... That's not true at all. I like Ericsson but Phaneuf is much better at pretty much everything to do with hockey than Ericsson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 (edited) Man checking around teams and ufa for possible targets Joel ward is a ufa he'd be a good fit here ... Big body and can play hockey, hits ... Playoff guy ... Id take him Edited April 30, 2015 by nyqvististhefuture Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
