Nev 1,085 Report post Posted June 13, 2013 $9.5M caphit, whats the spread on how long before someone says he's overpaid? But buh-bye to your depth Penguins. You've got $30m to sign 17 players in 2014 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckeyeWingsfan80 209 Report post Posted June 13, 2013 LOL thanks Pens....you're getting older, you have big time holes in the defense, you goalie is a headcase and a sieve and now you lock up Shrek long term but along with Crysby, you have something near 30% of your cap (which is going down) tied up in two players? BWWWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAH 1 Z Winged Dangler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyukian-Deke 722 Report post Posted June 13, 2013 Is there a link for the salary cap possibly dropping? Just curious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Dynasty 267 Report post Posted June 13, 2013 (edited) Regardless he is a top 5 forward in the world. He will get minimum 7mil and is very much worth it. On the ice he is a top 5 forward in the world. On a stats sheet? Not really. Malkin, Crosby, both Sedins, St. Louis, Stamkos, even Iginla and Nash will routinely have more goals and most of them will have more points. Steals and great passes look awesome when they happen, but goals and assists win games. He is worth 7 mil for a couple years... maybe. If he looks like he did against CHI then he is worth less than 6. Don't get me wrong, Dats is my favorite player and I want him to be a Wing and would hate for him to leave, but, we need to have a sensible budget with a team that is going to get smaller via FA losses and wants to make a run of it next season. That means being able to make trades in February. And having money to lure the big trades that work out in the offseason (like we couldn't do with Hossa) and promoting/keeping young talent that hit UFA status is worth more than keeping one player (EDIT:) for more money than is reasonable. Edited June 13, 2013 by Wings_Dynasty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted June 13, 2013 This board sounds an awful lot like it did after the Hawks won their first cup. "The Hawks will suck after signing a few big names!" "Good-bye Depth, Hello COOORRRRREEEE" Hawks seem to have turned out OK! 1 Son of a Wing reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted June 13, 2013 (edited) Is there a link for the salary cap possibly dropping? Just curious. No 64.3mil next year then it's only going to go up as it's tied to revenue and revenue has gone up every year. If revenue increases by just 5% each year then it will reach 90mil in less than 10 years. Don't know where people get the idea of the cap going down after next year... SOURCE - good article from Globe and Mail Edited June 13, 2013 by Son of a Wing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyukian-Deke 722 Report post Posted June 13, 2013 No 64.3mil next year then it's only going to go up as it's tied to revenue and revenue has gone up every year. If revenue increases by just 5% each year then it will reach 90mil in less than 10 years. Don't know where people get the idea of the cap going down after next year... SOURCE - good article from Globe and Mail That's what I thought. I thought maybe there was something I missed but I remembered they said it wouldn't dip below 64.3 million. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted June 13, 2013 This board sounds an awful lot like it did after the Hawks won their first cup. "The Hawks will suck after signing a few big names!" "Good-bye Depth, Hello COOORRRRREEEE" Hawks seem to have turned out OK! In case you forgot, a Dallas loss in that team's final game of the season was necessary in order for Chicago to make the playoffs in 2011, and they got bounced in the first round in both 2011 and 2012. 1 dobbles reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeGraa55 Report post Posted June 13, 2013 Great move by the pens. They guaranteed a playoff berth every year for the next 8 years. You have to have stars to win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted June 13, 2013 Only way you would ever see Malkin in a Wings jersey is If you play any NHL video game. Good for the Pens locking Malkin up spares us all the drama and controversy if they didn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted June 13, 2013 In case you forgot, a Dallas loss in that team's final game of the season was necessary in order for Chicago to make the playoffs in 2011, and they got bounced in the first round in both 2011 and 2012. That is hardly the demise this board predicted! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted June 14, 2013 That is hardly the demise this board predicted! Nobody predicted that they would be a basement team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nev 1,085 Report post Posted June 14, 2013 This board sounds an awful lot like it did after the Hawks won their first cup. "The Hawks will suck after signing a few big names!" "Good-bye Depth, Hello COOORRRRREEEE" Hawks seem to have turned out OK! I mentioned in a another thread, good teams are going to go in cycles. They'll maintain their core of stars, but around them will be a cast of scrubs, retreads and youngsters. They'll be real good for a couple of years when those guys are cheap and work out, but then those guys will leave for more money elsewhere and the process will start again. Crymson has already brought up the Hawks record, and this playoff run their depth has been almost as important as their core, and this post-season and next summer, they're going to lose a lot of that depth. So are Boston. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Playmaker Report post Posted June 14, 2013 I wouldn't consider two first round losses to be a going in a "cycle". I know many here seem to think there's an exact formula to winning it all. There just isn't. A few months ago, many here had already given the cup to the Pens and annointed Ray Shero the best GM ever. Injuries happen, goalies get hot, you get fluke goals. Chicago was one flukey goal away from being an epic failure this season in the minds of many and now they're the shining example of how to do things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nev 1,085 Report post Posted June 14, 2013 I wouldn't consider two first round losses to be a going in a "cycle". I know many here seem to think there's an exact formula to winning it all. There just isn't. A few months ago, many here had already given the cup to the Pens and annointed Ray Shero the best GM ever. Injuries happen, goalies get hot, you get fluke goals. Chicago was one flukey goal away from being an epic failure this season in the minds of many and now they're the shining example of how to do things. The people who were giving the cup to the Pens were fools who are ignorant of the history of hockey. They were one of the favourites for sure, but thats all you can do as a GM - make your team a contender. Then as you say, injuries, goalies and fluke goals have their say on your outcome. Nevertheless, the best way to build a team in this cap world, is a strong core of stars surrounded by scrubs, retreads and kids who are cheap AND good. Just like Chicago, Boston, Pittsburgh and LA have... Unfortunately, we woke Chicago up. They sleepwalked through their first 7 games. They've gone 8-1 since they were 3 games to 1 down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wingsfan72 198 Report post Posted June 14, 2013 Great move by the pens. They guaranteed a playoff berth every year for the next 8 years. You have to have stars to win. Nothing is guaranteed. I would love it if they had that kind of mindset though, where they "knew" they would make the playoffs. That's the kind of thing that leads to upsets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
