number9 3,297 Report post Posted October 10, 2012 "I know for a fact Russians will probably stay" - Zetterberg Kovalchuk and Ovechkin have shown interest in staying in the KHL after the work stoppage ends. Luckily Datsyuks agent has said Dats will be returning to Detroit after the lockout http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/10/zetterberg-on-players-returning-post-lockout-i-know-for-a-fact-russians-will-probably-stay/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Lime 234 Report post Posted October 10, 2012 Ovechkin staying in the KHL would be a big blow to the NHL. They have so few marketable personalities. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PROBIE4PREZ 58 Report post Posted October 10, 2012 Ovechkin staying in the KHL would be a big blow to the NHL. They have so few marketable personalities. I disagree. I think they have TONS of marketable players, but they just chose the obvious ones. Think if Biznasty was marketed like OV. I think he has a better personality. I don't know why Russians come off as so selfish to me and seem egotistical. 1 Ally reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
up2here 41 Report post Posted October 10, 2012 No way Ovechkin or Malkin or Kovalchuck stay. Even if the money is even (which it likey wont be) they know the NHL is still the best league in the world and they know the marketing opportunities are better. Ovechkin is a very talented player but hes full of crap. REALLY full of crap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted October 10, 2012 I disagree. I think they have TONS of marketable players, but they just chose the obvious ones. Think if Biznasty was marketed like OV. I think he has a better personality. I don't know why Russians come off as so selfish to me and seem egotistical. I don't know either. Are you basing it on only a few Russians? Because the Wings currently have a Russian player that is the antithesis of that. And they have had several in the past as well. Larionov, Fetisov, Vladdy, Kozlov. 1 Frozen-Man reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted October 10, 2012 Z should be in politics, "I know for a fact the Russians will probably stay." esteef 10 LidsFan, Frozen-Man, ami and 7 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted October 10, 2012 Z should be in politics, "I know for a fact the Russians will probably stay." esteef This is what I came to post 1 13dangledangle reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted October 10, 2012 I get what Z is saying but you can't put a whole lot of stock in it. Players are mad. Bettman is taking the game away from them so I'm not surprised they're starting to lash out and threaten to do the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) Well I could fully understand them, the facts especially for Russian players are like this: - playing in a very good league - not having to worry about that 'CBA crap every 5 - 6 years - make even more money - play in front of your family, friends and fans A certain little ***** is not only killing the appeal of the NHL for Russians but also for a lot of other european born players, that is why the players need to break the stupid "our offer or lockout pattern" this time, if it means a multiple year long lockout so be it. Although the NHL does have a ton of marketable players Stamkos, Toews, Lundquist to name a few. Edited October 10, 2012 by frankgrimes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted October 10, 2012 ovi and kovy know theyll never win a cup with the team their on, so why would they stay? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chances14 229 Report post Posted October 11, 2012 it's easy for the russian players to say that they won't come back when there are no nhl games going on right now. i mentioned it in another thread but the entire zetterberg quote is so full of misinformation, it's ridiculous I know for a fact Russians will probably stay,” Zetterberg said. “I can’t blame them either. The Russian league treats players a different way. For them to play in their home country and not have these (labor) disputes every other year … and they honor the contracts over there.“If you sign a deal, that’s the deal you get.” khl had salary roll backs just last year. players get cut and released from their contracts all the time. (hudler anyone?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hillbillywingsfan 794 Report post Posted October 11, 2012 Z should be in politics, "I know for a fact the Russians will probably stay." esteef Sounds to me Z needs to just stop talking. He is talking more than Mean ol Bettman. Stirring the pot it seems all the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted October 11, 2012 Sounds to me Z needs to just stop talking. He is talking more than Mean ol Bettman. Stirring the pot it seems all the time. Z doesn't want to play wings hockey, Z needs to play wings hockey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted October 11, 2012 Sounds to me Z needs to just stop talking. He is talking more than Mean ol Bettman. Stirring the pot it seems all the time. That's the point. Zetterberg is trying to force Bettman's hand by talking to the public. It's basic negotiating and he's not doing anything wrong or badly. But I highly doubt Ovechkin stays in the KHL. He was just working on having a bounce back year and probably wants to prove himself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drwscc 212 Report post Posted October 11, 2012 That's the point. Zetterberg is trying to force Bettman's hand by talking to the public. It's basic negotiating and he's not doing anything wrong or badly. But I highly doubt Ovechkin stays in the KHL. He was just working on having a bounce back year and probably wants to prove himself. So, it was good then that Jimmy D made his comments, right? He's just trying to force Fehr's hand by talking to the public. It's basic negotiating and he's not doing anything wrong or badly. It's being petulant, and wanting some attention. Nothing more, nothing less. 2 Z Winged Dangler and hillbillywingsfan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightfall 871 Report post Posted October 11, 2012 I have no doubt that some players will stay, but the major players will return for the paychecks and the stardom. The players are just playing the PR game right now. Get the public afraid that their players are going to leave and not come back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted October 11, 2012 Don Cherry would like it if the Russians stayed home, more jobs for his, "Good Canadian Boys". As mentioned, I think the players are just saying this to help bargain against Bettman and the 7 owners that back him. In the future I'm going to refrain from bunching the owners together. From the sounds of it, this lockout is only Bettman, Phoenix, and 7 other teams... Take 'em down Fehr, NHLPA, and 22 owners! Let's get our game back! Sounds to me Z needs to just stop talking. He is talking more than Mean ol Bettman. Stirring the pot it seems all the time. Z can say whatever he wants, that little runt is going to take away two years and 150 points to his career totals! 1 Z Winged Dangler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,230 Report post Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) Z should be in politics, "I know for a fact the Russians will probably stay." esteef This is what I came to post These. Edited October 11, 2012 by Dabura 1 13dangledangle reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sycsa 43 Report post Posted October 11, 2012 How can Ovi stay in the KHL when he has that monster of a contract? Will Dynamo buy it out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sibiriak 84 Report post Posted October 11, 2012 How can Ovi stay in the KHL when he has that monster of a contract? Will Dynamo buy it out? He is contracted to play for the Caps in exchange for 9.7 mil. (IIRC) per year. If the Caps won't pay him the agreed salary, why should he be bound by the contract? 1 Z Winged Dangler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted October 11, 2012 How can Ovi stay in the KHL when he has that monster of a contract? Will Dynamo buy it out? Can't he just bail on it? I know the NHL and KHL have signed agreements to respect each others contracts but they still don't really follow that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sycsa 43 Report post Posted October 11, 2012 He is contracted to play for the Caps in exchange for 9.7 mil. (IIRC) per year. If the Caps won't pay him the agreed salary, why should he be bound by the contract? Can't he just bail on it? I know the NHL and KHL have signed agreements to respect each others contracts but they still don't really follow that. Maybe, but I doubt it's that simple. A contract is usually a complicated thingy which has to be respected by both parties. Makes me wonder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pskov Wings Fan 71 Report post Posted October 11, 2012 Maybe, but I doubt it's that simple. A contract is usually a complicated thingy which has to be respected by both parties. Makes me wonder. It is difficult to enforce US contract in Russia. If Ovechkin liquidates all his US assets prior to bailing then I really do not see how Capitals can get anything out of him. But I do not think he will shut the door on NHL at this point in his career. Maybe later. 1 Sycsa reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seraph 240 Report post Posted October 11, 2012 Hockey players tend to have egos as big as their appetite for cash. As long as the NHL is the most competitive and historic league, they will come back to establish their legacy. Sure it's nice to get paid a competitive salary and be at home, but no one will ever give them props for being one of the greatest while they are in the KHL. They are mad and irrational like us fans, but they'll march right back when things are worked out like us too. 2 hillbillywingsfan and Z Winged Dangler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted October 12, 2012 How many players went to the KHL and ended up back? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
