dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted August 17, 2012 Just wondering what you guys think as to where our current players would play in the event of a lockout. Would it be the same destinations as last time? What would you like to see? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted August 17, 2012 Hard to say. If there is a lockout, do you jump the gun and go play somewhere or do you wait, thinking the lockout will end sooner rather than later. The other thing to think about is that guys like Datsyuk and Zetterberg are older now. They were in their mid-late 20's the last time, but being older now, would they prefer the rest? Or is it more important to play in order to stay in shape....if they don't play, might be harder to get in shape than younger guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted August 17, 2012 Hard to say. If there is a lockout, do you jump the gun and go play somewhere or do you wait, thinking the lockout will end sooner rather than later. The other thing to think about is that guys like Datsyuk and Zetterberg are older now. They were in their mid-late 20's the last time, but being older now, would they prefer the rest? Or is it more important to play in order to stay in shape....if they don't play, might be harder to get in shape than younger guys. I posted in another thread that it would be cool to get some of our guys playing with our prospect talent in europe. Jarnkrok is in Brynas and Z could possibly head there with Franzen. Fil could go to Jokerit to play with Pulks and develop some chemistry. I just think it would be good to make lemonade with these lemons and get our prospects accustomed to the boys early. Not to mention Jarnkrok and Pulks could be making the team the year after the lockout... 1 Z Winged Dangler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted August 17, 2012 Good question. I can see some of the Euros going back to their home countries. I can see some of the younger ones going to the AHL or another minor league. Or they can go the route Bert went last time and play in a beer league, but to keep it fair, they'd have to play goalie. Come to think of it, maybe that should be mandatory. We'd lead the league in blocked shots. 1 dirtydangles reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrasco 1,312 Report post Posted August 17, 2012 If the NHL locks out, what does the AHL do? I know the AHL is their own league, but they are using players in the same system as the NHL. Do the NHLPA and the AHL have their own CBA? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted August 17, 2012 would our GM have any influence on this? like could holland ask Z to go to Brynas instead of Timra where he played his european career? I assume no, because there is no team control over the players if a lockout happens but it would make sense to do this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest irishock Report post Posted August 17, 2012 Tomas to retirement Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted August 17, 2012 Hard to say. If there is a lockout, do you jump the gun and go play somewhere or do you wait, thinking the lockout will end sooner rather than later. The other thing to think about is that guys like Datsyuk and Zetterberg are older now. They were in their mid-late 20's the last time, but being older now, would they prefer the rest? Or is it more important to play in order to stay in shape....if they don't play, might be harder to get in shape than younger guys. This. I think that Dats and Z to name a couple would rest up and be ready in case there's half a season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted August 17, 2012 isn't there only 50 games in the SEL though? thats not excessive by any stretch. I think it would be important for guys that age to keep the rust off and maintain their bodies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted August 17, 2012 Personally I'd like to see the entire roster in GR...at least the Griffs would finally make the playoffs 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted August 17, 2012 Personally I'd like to see the entire roster in GR...at least the Griffs would finally make the playoffs what would happen to our player development though? even if we put a bunch of our guys in, this would go against EVERYTHING we do in holding our prospects back so they can "get meaningful minutes." I say our roster boys should stay far away from GR and let our guys there continue with their stuff... would we just stuff all our prospects in toledo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Winterberg 6 Report post Posted August 17, 2012 The real question for me is there any way of getting access to the Swedish and Russian hockey leagues (among others) via internet? Paid or unpaid. Is there a Center Ice package for other leagues? How will I get my hockey fill??? 1 Hey man nice shot! reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted August 17, 2012 (edited) Tomas to retirement Sad way for Homer to retire... I love that man Edited August 17, 2012 by Rivalred 2 Hey man nice shot! and Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted August 17, 2012 San Francisco Spiders please!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigWillieStyle 662 Report post Posted August 17, 2012 Bring back The Motor City Mechanics!!! 1 Hey man nice shot! reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marty Barry 230 Report post Posted August 17, 2012 Love to see our guys go to the Euros to play with our prospects. But, only if they can return to the NHL if the season resumes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,675 Report post Posted August 17, 2012 (edited) I don't know the answer to the op's question, but I wonder how it would work with the KHL given that I'm pretty sure each league has to honor the other's contracts? Anybody know if this would be a problem or no? The real question for me is there any way of getting access to the Swedish and Russian hockey leagues (among others) via internet? Paid or unpaid. Is there a Center Ice package for other leagues? How will I get my hockey fill??? There are all sorts of streaming sites that you can choose from, and usually they'll have KHL games at least. Plus, I'd imagine if the NHL locked out and all the talent was in other leagues then more international streams would pop up to deal with the demand. Here are a few I use: http://www.thefirstrow.eu/ http://www.vipbox.tv/ http://www.slipstrea...heduleframe.php Edited August 17, 2012 by kipwinger 1 Winterberg reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ToledoWingsFan 8 Report post Posted August 17, 2012 what would happen to our player development though? even if we put a bunch of our guys in, this would go against EVERYTHING we do in holding our prospects back so they can "get meaningful minutes." I say our roster boys should stay far away from GR and let our guys there continue with their stuff... would we just stuff all our prospects in toledo? I wouldn't mind some talent down here. 1 dirtydangles reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted August 17, 2012 Sending our top guns to the GR will destroy the development process big time. They are kids growing into adults by getting their meaningful minutes, if we send our stars back down these players would sit in the press box and watch them playing. I think some will end up in Sweden, Switzerland and guys like Datsyuk in the KHL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dobbles 252 Report post Posted August 18, 2012 the ahl has limits on the number of vets each team can have. so its not as if we could send the entire roster. obviously the young guys could play there like smith and nyquist, but not everyone could go even if we wanted to. we also have to remember most of the euro leagues have caps on the number of foreign players, so those slots might go pretty fast too. also, for the guy asking earlier, the ahl has an agreement with the phpa. the phpa represents the players in the ahl, echl, and chl. they're currently having no labor issues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilmrt 636 Report post Posted August 18, 2012 I'm interested in who is even eligible for AHL play. If I'm not mistaken, its ages 22 and under, plus players with a two-way clause, and certain number of older players per team (I'm thinking its 4?). Who in the Wings system qualifies? Who are realistic candidates for filling the few veteran spots? Also, what notable players around the league qualify? One person I absolutely want to see stay and play in the AHL is Brunner. I'll be seriously disappointed if he spends the lockout in the Swiss League. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zata fan 40 6 Report post Posted August 19, 2012 (edited) I think some vets will just sit it out and wait and start playing around Xmas time if the lockout continues. Edited August 19, 2012 by Zata fan 40 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted August 19, 2012 I'm pretty sure that if there's no season, you're gonna see a lot of NHL players playing NHL13 online. That'll keep them sharp. I will be their friends as well unless they're Cansucks or Waddling s*** Birds. The thought of not having hockey this year is making me lose it if you guys haven't noticed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightfall 871 Report post Posted August 19, 2012 I wouldn't mind some talent down here. Hell, they have had the talent in GR. They have just underperformed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted August 24, 2012 From Sportsnet: Despite a possible work stoppage looming in the National Hockey League, the Swedish Elite League will not accept any short-term contracts from NHL players unless they are willing to commit for the entire season. ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites