Rivalred 630 Report post Posted July 21, 2011 Pretty interesting view... http://www.freep.com/article/20110721/SPORTS18/110721035/1053/sports05 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hossa4Life 4 Report post Posted July 21, 2011 there are bad fans in every town. Dumb article that is written only to piss people off for attention. Write a real article ya clown. 8 TheDetroitRedWings, stevkrause, hillbillywingsfan and 5 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted July 21, 2011 Seems LGW didn't get the memo: The concept of being a fan is fairly simple. It starts with loving the sport. If you do, the experience should be great, win or lose. A true fan supports their team, its players and its coaches through thick and thin. We have a two game losing streak and posters here are cashing in all their chips. 3 Gordie Howe hat trick, commadore183 and stevkrause reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted July 21, 2011 Seems LGW didn't get the memo: We have a two game losing streak and posters here are cashing in all their chips. If you ever read the GDT thread, sometimes it only takes one bad period 5 commadore183, Rick D, Peadydog and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MidMichSteve 1,115 Report post Posted July 21, 2011 If you ever read the GDT thread, sometimes it only takes one bad period ...or missed save. 1 Gordie Howe hat trick reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winger30 20 Report post Posted July 21, 2011 yeah I read this article wasn't too fond of it 2 hillbillywingsfan and Jett1913 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hillbillywingsfan 794 Report post Posted July 21, 2011 To see some of yall's posts and to see how much you can't stand LGW or how the fans on this site post why even come here and post yourself? I don't get it. This article seems like one of those "ugly" fans that got butt hurt because Holland didn't spend 7mil on Wisniewski. So he's taking it out on the fans. It's a sport for gods sake. Entertainment. There are those fans in every sport and to write a stupid article about it just makes you and the fan base as a whole look more stupid then what the article is talking about. I see posts on here all the time like the above talking about how bad people are on this site. It's just silly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted July 21, 2011 (edited) meh. If I wanted to read condescending, self righteous crap, I'll read Mitch Albom. He's pretty much cornered the market on it. More likely what happened is the guy went from being a sports fan as a kid, then returned and saw how it is as an adult. It's like people forget that the word "fan" comes from fanatic. Edited July 21, 2011 by haroldsnepsts 4 hillbillywingsfan, Heroes of Hockeytown, wingfanatic4alltime and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted July 21, 2011 To see some of yall's posts and to see how much you can't stand LGW or how the fans on this site post why even come here and post yourself? I don't get it. This article seems like one of those "ugly" fans that got butt hurt because Holland didn't spend 7mil on Wisniewski. So he's taking it out on the fans. It's a sport for gods sake. Entertainment. There are those fans in every sport and to write a stupid article about it just makes you and the fan base as a whole look more stupid then what the article is talking about. I see posts on here all the time like the above talking about how bad people are on this site. It's just silly. Only a s***ty fan would say something like that. esteef 2 HockeytownUW and hillbillywingsfan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hillbillywingsfan 794 Report post Posted July 21, 2011 Only a s***ty fan would say something like that. esteef HEY!! hahahaha I had to + you on that one. 1 Namingway reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted July 21, 2011 Bow down to the most righteous Wings fan out there! Spare me, if your a real Wings fan you stand by them no matter what. So what if people get a little pissed off when the Wings lose or things aren't perfect? That's what being a fan is all about, you care about the team. You don't sit down look at the score that reads "STL - 10 DET - 2" and just go "Whatever, we'll get em next time!" You get up cuss and swear, grab a beer, chug it, burp, sit back down swear some more and then when the games over move on. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted July 21, 2011 ...or missed save. ...or Zetterberg kicked out of the face-off dot. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted July 21, 2011 lol stupidest article ive ever read. it doesnt even deserve its own thread. this guy is more of a whiner than the fans hes calling whiners lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted July 21, 2011 It is a wonderful thing that freep.com publishes what the common reader thinks, but they need to do it in a different fashion... Very poor piece (of s***)... It is controversial, therefore we have it... Yet, a good writer always looks at all aspects to allow the reader to make the final decision.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McAwesome 754 Report post Posted July 21, 2011 (edited) I disagree with the author's premise, but he does make some valid points. Every fan base has armchair GMs, fair-weather fans, and those who simply embarrass themselves, but like a vast majority of Wings fans, including most on LGW, I acknowledge that sports are just sports, not the end of the world but something I am passionate about and enjoy watching, talking about, reading about, etc. As a fan of the Red Wings, do I have the right to disagree with a decision that Ken Holland makes about a certain player? Yes. Does my opinion (key word here) have any effect on the outcome? No. Do I have the right to express my displeasure if the Wings lose a game in which they did not appear to give 100% effort (especially if I paid good money to see it in person)? Yes. Again, is my opinion going to have any effect on the outcome? No. So, I shake my head and hope that the mistakes the organization makes will not lead to a lesser degree of success than I have come to expect, I turn off the TV or boo from my seat in the stands, I throw my hat on the ground and storm out of the room, occasionally I kick the table and break a toe or two (ala 95 SCF), but life carries on, and so do I. I am proud to be a Red Wings fan, I am proud to be from Michigan, but I do not expect to be held accountable for how every fan of the Red Wings chooses to conduct themselves, neither do I make any apologies for their choice of expression, nor do I seek to impose my standards on anyone or seek to conform to anyone else's standards. \rant Edited July 21, 2011 by McAwesome 2 Namingway and Datsyuk Fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Donaldjr2448 43 Report post Posted July 21, 2011 I'm confused at which angle the writer was going with this story? One thing is for certain he has never taken a Logic course. First its wrong for me to get pissed at anything, but then its ok to do so???? I'm suprised the Free Press actually posted this article! Not good at all, not to mention he never backed up anything he stated with facts. Oh well, we all have our opinions I suppose! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilmrt 636 Report post Posted July 21, 2011 I really think the article is about the Detroit Lions and has nothing to do with the Wings or their fans. The writer must be a NFL-only fan and just is ignorant to how the rest are, including us. If that is the case, then I can understand why he wrote it, but it makes absolutely no sense. How can you stand by a team (the Lions) who are a disgrace? The ownership has run it into the ground and there is almost nothing respectable left about the organization as a whole. If you say true fans stick with a team like that no matter what...you're a lemming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted July 21, 2011 Meh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sleepwalker 512 Report post Posted July 21, 2011 Meh. Pretty much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Heaten Report post Posted July 22, 2011 I think the author is on to something. I was in pure disbelief when DRW fans on message forums started crying when Sharks landed Brent Burns and acted like it was all Holland's fault. DRW fans were pissed because they think Wild would easily take Hudler + Kindl for Burns and a 2nd... then rant on that Holland didn't even try. That entire thing just really amazed me how ignorant some DRW fans (arm chair GMs) really are. This time of year is always the same, they expect Holland to make a block buster signing/trades at all costs, no matter how bad it hurts the future, just for the sake of making block buster signings/trades. Then the Ericsson re-signing really took the cake. Lol. People thought Ericsson, despite probably being worth $3.5+ in the open market, should take no more than $1 million from Holland. When Holland gave him a slightly over-paid contract, which will likely be considered a bargain in year or so, Red Wings fans went ape s*** like he wiped his ass with the American flag or something, while completely ignoring that his cap hit doesn't hurt the team what-so-ever. I have to agree with the author, he is right that DRWs are the most unrealistic and unappreciative fans in the game. 5 Namingway, Tommy_Like_Wingy, Chunkylover and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,802 Report post Posted July 22, 2011 I didn't know that Crymson was an online columnist. 6 Detroit \# 1 Fan, dropkickshanahans, evilmrt and 3 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted July 22, 2011 (edited) I agree with the majority that pretty much all cities and all teams have their share of either moronic, obnoxious, bi-polar fans, you name it. I deal with plenty of insane Saints and LSU fans down here. I don't like to rant and rave over and over again, I don't consider myself bi-polar, I don't like overreacting pre-maturely, etc. etc., but people that might have these traits are just as much of a fan, and care just as much as myself as well. I'm no better or worse than them, and they are no better or worse than me, we all want our favorite teams to win. I just choose to stay away from these traits or people or attitude or whatever as much as I can. EDIT: If there's one thing I hate regarding this, it's the real vs. fake fan bulls**t just because somebody might not be a full time cheerleader. And it's happened plenty on here from holier than thou people (I used to do it too). Again I rarely ever agree or go down the route of people who might like to vent or possibly overreact, but I usually understand where they are coming from, and in most sitautions I usually try to let them have their moments without being rude or telling them to chill out. It'd be nice if everybody was an eternal optimist or a cheerleader and we could all hold hands and sing kumbayah. But the odds of that happening, for fans of any team, is about as realistic as Bill Clinton not lieing again for the rest of his life. Ain't happening. So while the composer of this blurb has valid points, he fails to recognize that this is pretty much how it is across any city and any fan base, whether it is right/wrong, absurd or normal. And it ain't changing anytime soon. Edited July 22, 2011 by SouthernWingsFan 1 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted July 22, 2011 (edited) I didn't know that Crymson was an online columnist. I was gonna say that but I didn't wanna start a big s*** typhoon, but I'm not surprised you'd jump at the opportunity Edited July 22, 2011 by Detroit # 1 Fan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingZNut13 99 Report post Posted July 22, 2011 I tend to think that the author of this article makes some valid points but I think he overlooks some general thoughts. 1) There are fans who love to hate. They will sit by and watch waiting for failure just so they can say "haha told ya so". As everyone on LGW knows, there are several of those wonderful people here. 2) Just because there are a group of people who chose to hate doesn't mean the rest of us hate all the time. Yeah we have rough patches were we get frustrated and look for someone to blame but the majority of us that are level headed realize that it's normally just a phase and there is always a game or shot or save were we snap back into our senses. 3) As a kid, it's easy to love something. Your Dad or Grandfather love a team and have passion for that team so it's natural that you jump on the train. As an adult however, the aspect and views of the game change. As an adult, you are able to understand deeper and more intricate aspects of the game. As an adult, there are more things to criticize and hate than just wins, loses and championships. Although we all love wins and we all love to see the cup in Detroit, but this author assumes that we should all be kids and like them no matter what. At the end of the day, this guy is an idiot. As the sun sets, I am going to always love the Wings and always going to support them. Do I get made when Hudler steps on the ice? Sure! Do I get mad when some other team other than the Wings win? Sure! Do I get mad anytime NBC/Versus mentions Crosby? We aren't going there. I'm allowed to be mad, I give my money and time and heart to this team! Ya damn straight I'm gonna get mad if we aren't living up to my expectations. But just because I get mad for a few minutes or hours because we lost doesn't mean I hate the Wings and Holland, Babs, and the entire Illitch family should burn. This guy needs to learn what it's like to cheer for a team that has such high expectations and when those aren't met, he needs to realize people who invest whatever they invest are going to get mad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Never_Retire_Steve 35 Report post Posted July 22, 2011 While there are no doubt great Red Wings fans out there, I think that the author of this article is right (strictly speaking from a Red Wings fan perspective). As a group I think we tend to have some pretty fair-weather fans who only show up in the playoffs and are very ignorant when it comes to hockey in general. When you are a fan of a team like the Red Wings you have to put up with this type of attention because we haven't had a "bad" year in 20+ years and unfortunately you tend to pick up a lot of bandwaggoners and s***ty fans along the way. The Yankees, Steelers and Lakers are the same way and also have many awful fans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
