Nabokov claimed by NYI, refuses to report, suspended

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

So when Holland takes a chance on a very low percentage move to sign someone like Nabby realizing he almost certainly won't clear waivers at that price, it's a great move. But when Snow (and Wang) picks up Nabby at a bargain basement price because at the moment he has virtually no starting goaltender other than the china doll Dipietro, he's a d-bag?

Don't get me wrong, overall I think Wang has made a ton of idiotic moves, but the thing is, Nabby knew this was a possibility when he signed the contract. When we heard the price, pretty much everyone here knew he wouldn't clear waivers. You don't think he and his agent knew that too?

With this move, they essentially replaced Roloson at a much cheaper price. It sucks for Nabby to get picked up by a crap team like the Islanders, but thems the rules. As for Wangs comments, it's all just public relations, which he's not very good at. If I were him I would basically say, "He signed a contract and knew the rules. We're willing to pay this guy good money to play in the NHL. Do you know how many players would kill for that chance? Let's not lose perspective here."

And yes tanking will get you a better draft pick, but we're only halfway through the season and you have to at least pretend to field a competitive team and sell some tickets. If Dipietro got hurt again, my understanding is they basically would have to start a questionable minor league goalie or make their young prospect start all these games for this awful Islanders team, which isn't exactly good goalie development.

[Selliria 76]

So when Holland takes a chance on a very low percentage move to sign someone like Nabby realizing he almost certainly won't clear waivers at that price, it's a great move. But when Snow (and Wang) picks up Nabby at a bargain basement price because at the moment he has virtually no starting goaltender other than the china doll Dipietro, he's a d-bag?

Thank you, thank you, and thank you.

My thoughts EXACTLY.

[WingZNut13 99]

Baaaahahaha

At least Nabby has a sense of humor. I got a good laugh out of this article.

[Selliria 76]

Was the "Dave Holland" name in that article on purpose or did he just mess up?

Edited January 25, 2011 by Selliria

[WingZNut13 99]

Was the "Dave Holland" name in that article on purpose or did he just mess up?

The whole website is a joke but it kinda puts a humorous twist to the whole situation.

[Selliria 76]

The whole website is a joke but it kinda puts a humorous twist to the whole situation.

Yeah, it was really funny. I especially like the comment about how Nabby walked into Nassau Coliseum, rubbed his hands together, and said "My work is done here." LOL.

I knew the article was for comedic purposes, but the writer got every name right except Holland's. I wasn't sure if that was supposed to be part of the joke or if he just accidentally messed up.

Edited January 25, 2011 by Selliria

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

Yeah, it was really funny. I especially like the comment about how Nabby walked into Nassau Coliseum, rubbed his hands together, and said "My work is done here." LOL.

I knew the article was for comedic purposes, but the writer got every name right except Holland's. I wasn't sure if that was supposed to be part of the joke or if he just accidentally messed up.

Almost like the satirical photo of Bettman standing in an empty arena and thinking, "Empty Arena - my work here iz done."

[hillbillywingsfan 794]

So when Holland takes a chance on a very low percentage move to sign someone like Nabby realizing he almost certainly won't clear waivers at that price, it's a great move. But when Snow (and Wang) picks up Nabby at a bargain basement price because at the moment he has virtually no starting goaltender other than the china doll Dipietro, he's a d-bag?

Don't get me wrong, overall I think Wang has made a ton of idiotic moves, but the thing is, Nabby knew this was a possibility when he signed the contract. When we heard the price, pretty much everyone here knew he wouldn't clear waivers. You don't think he and his agent knew that too?

With this move, they essentially replaced Roloson at a much cheaper price. It sucks for Nabby to get picked up by a crap team like the Islanders, but thems the rules. As for Wangs comments, it's all just public relations, which he's not very good at. If I were him I would basically say, "He signed a contract and knew the rules. We're willing to pay this guy good money to play in the NHL. Do you know how many players would kill for that chance? Let's not lose perspective here."

And yes tanking will get you a better draft pick, but we're only halfway through the season and you have to at least pretend to field a competitive team and sell some tickets. If Dipietro got hurt again, my understanding is they basically would have to start a questionable minor league goalie or make their young prospect start all these games for this awful Islanders team, which isn't exactly good goalie development.

I agree with a lot you say but this I don't. Nabby wanted to play for the wings so he signed with them.He is a free agent. They made a statement before that he only wanted to play for a team that had a chance of winning There is no way in hell the isle is going to make it to the playoffs. Now if Nabby is so much better then what they have at a cheap price..well he will win for them. So that means not only will they NOT make the playoffs but they will lose their great place in signing someone in the draft. So i feel all in all it was a stupid move on their part.

Edited January 25, 2011 by hillbillywingsfan

[Dimaline312000 51]

They're not trying to build around him. They're trying to build around DiPietro.

However, saying that it was stupid of them to claim a high end goaltender at a $570k cap hit is ignorant. Worst case scenario is that nothing changes. Best case is that Nabokov comes in and kicks ass for them. So now, Nabokov is suspended and unless he suits up for the Isles, he'll be Islanders property for that rate next season. But if he still doesn't want to play for them? They now have a tradeable asset with very nice value. Any playoff-caliber teams looking for a goaltender like Nabokov? The Isles could get a decent return for him if he doesn't want to stick around.

Isn't there a clause in this contract saying that he can't be moved? Any team that picked him up don't they have to keep them unless they waive it? Call me ignorant I don't care but was this really even a wise move by the Islanders or any team, I think not. Look at what Snow and the Islanders are going through now scrunity by the fans and a bunch of conterversy. I don't think this was wise by any team, and what are the Islanders trying to prove to suspend him for not coming in. He doesn't want to play for them so it just makes the Islanders look bad in my opnion. So as I said I stand by my statement in saying it was stupid to pick up Nabokov.

[Doc Holliday 1,888]

I agree with a lot you say but this I don't. Nabby wanted to play for the wings so he signed with them.He is a free agent. They made a statement before that he only wanted to play for a team that had a chance of winning There is no way in hell the isle is going to make it to the playoffs. Now if Nabby is so much better then what they have at a cheap price..well he will win for them. So that means not only will they NOT make the playoffs but they will lose their great place in signing someone in the draft. So i feel all in all it was a stupid move on their part.

Wrong.

His agent said he would report to whatever team picks him up.

[Wingzman91 134]

Wrong.

His agent said he would report to whatever team picks him up.

Its been reported that both were said. He would and he would not.

OK after a few days, here's best case for everyone.

The Isles suspend and toll Nabokov's contract, but after this season finishes he clears waivers.

Then in the offseason, Detroit and NYI can finally make this trade, and we have Nabokov for a season, for peanuts.

Not sure 100% if this would work, the tolled contract is the question, if they push it, but consider this year as he was in the NHL then he should clear waivers, after the season finishes.

I think the tolled contract is alot of hot air, but, the Islanders are Bettman's favorite team, that he grew up watching. Troll Toll.

[Original-Six 254]

Wrong.

His agent said he would report to whatever team picks him up.

[Selliria 76]

Its been reported that both were said. He would and he would not.

Do you know of an article where it states that Nabokov let people know beforehand that he wanted to play for a Cup contending team?

I'm not trying to call anybody out or anything. I've just been looking for a source on that and haven't been able to find one yet.

Edited January 25, 2011 by Selliria

[eva unit zero 271]

Actually Eva, that is the reason the rule is in place. Say a team was up against the cap, and wanted to sign a player. They say, hey, go play in Russia for a few months, we'll bring you in later on. That's the reason the rule is in place, but it still is kinda silly.

Isn't that what I just said?

A team signs a player and loans them to a European club and it's not a cap violation, so long as the pass through any necessary waivers.

Alternatively, they pass through entry waivers as Nabokov would have had to if he were joining the Wings.

There's no "hiding" players in Europe because they have to pass through waivers somehow unless they are NHL-contracted, waiver exempt, and specifically assigned there instead of the AHL. Larsson, for example, would not have to pass through waivers.

[hillbillywingsfan 794]

Wrong.

His agent said he would report to whatever team picks him up.

RIGHT

Its been reported that both were said. He would and he would not.

OK after a few days, here's best case for everyone.

The Isles suspend and toll Nabokov's contract, but after this season finishes he clears waivers.

Then in the offseason, Detroit and NYI can finally make this trade, and we have Nabokov for a season, for peanuts.

Not sure 100% if this would work, the tolled contract is the question, if they push it, but consider this year as he was in the NHL then he should clear waivers, after the season finishes.

I think the tolled contract is alot of hot air, but, the Islanders are Bettman's favorite team, that he grew up watching. Troll Toll.

it was report many times that his agent said that...so before you drop the WRONGS down make sure you read it back through. hahaha

Edited January 25, 2011 by hillbillywingsfan

[Doc Holliday 1,888]

RIGHT

Put up or shut up.

it was report many times that his agent said that...so before you drop the WRONGS down make sure you read it back through. hahaha

His agent said he would report to whichever team claims him. No matter what.

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2011/01/red_wings_who_know_evgeni_nabo.html

Asked if there is any way Nabokov could wind up in Detroit after another club claims him, his agent, Don Meehan, said on Friday, “Anything’s possible, but not likely.”

Meehan said Nabokov will play regardless of where he ends up, nixing speculation that he would sit out the season if he were claimed by a club for whom he did not want to play.

“He wants to get visibility for next year,” Meehan said.

[Rick D 382]

So if the islanders wanted him so bad why didn't they sign him in December when he first became a free agent?? Why wait till another team tries to pick him up, and then put a claim in??

[HankthaTank 1,100]

So if the islanders wanted him so bad why didn't they sign him in December when he first became a free agent?? Why wait till another team tries to pick him up, and then put a claim in??

It's on page 39 of this Bible of a thread.

[seeinred 1,488]

So if the islanders wanted him so bad why didn't they sign him in December when he first became a free agent?? Why wait till another team tries to pick him up, and then put a claim in??

Because a player is a lot more likely to play for the Islanders when they're essentially forced to than if they're given the choice to do so.

[pucktividi 472]

So when Holland takes a chance on a very low percentage move to sign someone like Nabby realizing he almost certainly won't clear waivers at that price, it's a great move. But when Snow (and Wang) picks up Nabby at a bargain basement price because at the moment he has virtually no starting goaltender other than the china doll Dipietro, he's a d-bag?

I wouldn't say Snow did something outside the rules,but Ken did something that Snow can only dream about at this point...he made a deal with Nabby and his agent so I can't put them in the same sentence.

Personally think Nabby should swallow it and play for the Isles and take it as a conditioning for the next season.Maybe we'll see him then in the Wings sweater after all

[vladdy16 2,154]

Snow is screwed no matter what he does at this point. Waive him and look like a doormat or force someone to play who doesn't want to...... I don't envy him. From the outside looking in, I can't fathom what would be best for the Islanders in the long run.

[WingZNut13 99]

Pierre LeBrun just tweeted that the Islanders suspend Nabokov. I'm not sure where he goes from here but that is just off the twitter wire. Nothing official yet.

Oh and the tweet came from the NYIslanders twitter.

Sorry HankthaTank....I corrected the post! My bad.

Edited January 25, 2011 by WingZNut13

[HankthaTank 1,100]

NabOkov.

That is all.

[ogreslayer 1,069]

Pierre LeBrun just tweeted that the Islanders suspend Nabakov. I'm not sure where he goes from here but that is just off the twitter wire. Nothing official yet.

Oh and the tweet came from the NYIslanders twitter.

Based on what LeBrun & Bob McKenzie have tweeted already, I think that's the first step to the Isles being able to go back to the league and in essence make the contract binding next season as well. Wouldn't hold my breath to see Nabby in Detroit next year either.

[WingZNut13 99]

Based on what LeBrun & Bob McKenzie have tweeted already, I think that's the first step to the Isles being able to go back to the league and in essence make the contract binding next season as well. Wouldn't hold my breath to see Nabby in Detroit next year either.

I don't think he is going to be in Detroit next year. I think the whole purpose of signing Navokov this year was to get him to help Jimmy. If he can't get him this year, I don't think he is going to get him next year.