Guest micah Report post Posted May 10, 2009 Un-flipping-real, a broken face for Kopy? From that fight? Man. Get well soon, Kopy!Time for somebody to teach this team how to stick up for yourself and your teammates without getting a broken head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest micah Report post Posted May 10, 2009 I pulled this one out last season (or the year before maybe) but come playoff time fighting ability has about as much impact as beard growing ability. Seems like the lack of fighting ability had a pretty big impact on Kopecky. Homer too - if he had fighting ability, he could have taken the Duck's best Dman away for 5 minutes. He didn't, because he can't, because he is a nancy-boy when it comes to fighting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted May 10, 2009 Seems like the lack of fighting ability had a pretty big impact on Kopecky. Homer too - if he had fighting ability, he could have taken the Duck's best Dman away for 5 minutes. He didn't, because he can't, because he is a nancy-boy when it comes to fighting. Now here is a perfectly good point that you once again ruin and make it very difficult to actually concede your point because you consistently disparage and ridicule great players on this team. Yes, it would be great, if Prongers was actually dumb enough to do it, if Holmstrom was able to take Pronger off the ice for 5 minutes. That does not make him a nancy-boy however. Quit projecting your fantasies and own insecurities onto Red Wing players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted May 10, 2009 Seems like the lack of fighting ability had a pretty big impact on Kopecky. Homer too - if he had fighting ability, he could have taken the Duck's best Dman away for 5 minutes. He didn't, because he can't, because he is a nancy-boy when it comes to fighting. :nonono: Holmstrom isn't counted on to drop the gloves. Just because he doesn't get in a manly contest doesn't mean he's a nancy boy, no matter how much you have dreams of every person in the world sticking up for others or throwing fists. Not everybody is going to in hockey, and that doesn't make them less manly or tough. Fighting isn't always smart or the end-of-all-end solutions. Get it through that thick skull of yours. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted May 10, 2009 (edited) Seems like the lack of fighting ability had a pretty big impact on Kopecky. Homer too - if he had fighting ability, he could have taken the Duck's best Dman away for 5 minutes. He didn't, because he can't, because he is a nancy-boy when it comes to fighting. Remind me again why the Red Wings would want 1/3 of their top line off the ice for five minutes. Edited May 10, 2009 by GoWings1905 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted May 10, 2009 Remind me again why the Red Wings would want a 1/3 of their top line off the ice for five minutes. Though in the case of Holmstrom vs. Pronger, it would be a pretty nice exchange. Holmstrom takes enough punishment though, that I do not expect him to drop the gloves with someone who has over half a foot on him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted May 10, 2009 (edited) Remind me again why the Red Wings would want 1/3 of their top line off the ice for five minutes. I personally would trade off Homer for any one of the Ducks top four D-men for 5 minutes in a New York minute. Just sayin'. Edited May 10, 2009 by Broken 16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted May 10, 2009 (edited) Double post Edited May 10, 2009 by Broken 16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lets go pavel 2 Report post Posted May 10, 2009 I personally would trade off Homer for any one of the Ducks top four D-men for 5 minutes in a New York minute. Just sayin'. Not if he gets his face broken in the process. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted May 10, 2009 Not if he gets his face broken in the process. Of course not. Who said anything about that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lets go pavel 2 Report post Posted May 10, 2009 Of course not. Who said anything about that? Nobody, but as Kopecky just demonstrated you run a risk having your non-fighters start fighting, even to take an opposing player off the ice. Losing Homer for 5 minutes is one thing, losing him for the rest of the playoffs would be a problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted May 10, 2009 Nobody, but as Kopecky just demonstrated you run a risk having your non-fighters start fighting, even to take an opposing player off the ice. Losing Homer for 5 minutes is one thing, losing him for the rest of the playoffs would be a problem. Ya... especially because ZDH is gonna catch fire tonight and dominate the rest of the way through the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted May 10, 2009 9 times out of 10 an enforcer (I assume this is what you mean, since anyone can be a fighter) playing regular shifts in the playoffs is more a symptom of lack of depth. Unless that enforcer has another facet or two to contribute. When compared to the need for defense, offense, goaltending, team toughness and grit, coaching and team discipline... dudes that can beat people up is behind all of those and probably a couple more I couldn't think of. This is possible but I highly doubt it's "9 times out of 10". I'm sure the Ducks could find a better skating puck handler in their organization that they could ice in the playoffs against the best team in the league (Sharks) than George Parros. Parros was in the lineup to play his game, his tough enforcer type game, and not because of a depth issue for Anaheim. Will Parros play in every series like that, who knows? But he, (and players like him), doesn't just hang up his skates because the regular season is over like some here would have you believe. Enforcers/fighters can and do thrive in the playoffs just like the regular season. Some teams are more successful in using their beef than others but they are used just the same. Again, not saying using players like Parros is the end all be all, but they are tools that are still used in today's playoffs, in today's game. esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted May 10, 2009 This is possible but I highly doubt it's "9 times out of 10". I'm sure the Ducks could find a better skating puck handler in their organization that they could ice in the playoffs against the best team in the league (Sharks) than George Parros. Parros was in the lineup to play his game, his tough enforcer type game, and not because of a depth issue for Anaheim. Will Parros play in every series like that, who knows? But he, (and players like him), doesn't just hang up his skates because the regular season is over like some here would have you believe. Enforcers/fighters can and do thrive in the playoffs just like the regular season. Some teams are more successful in using their beef than others but they are used just the same. Again, not saying using players like Parros is the end all be all, but they are tools that are still used in today's playoffs, in today's game. esteef Ya, 9 times out of 10 might be pushing it. Don't get me wrong, I love fighting in the NHL. And I agree, fighting will always be a tool. But I think the pure, protypical enforcer is slowly becoming extinct. They need a little skill to go along. Which I think is actually a good thing. What I wouldn't give to have another twilight Joey Kocur. That guy was PERFECT. Good work ethic, enough skill to contrubute and a jack hammer that could knock out most guys. He was, imo, the perfect grinder. Nobody wanted to f*** with Joey. Not even in the late 90's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted May 10, 2009 I pulled this one out last season (or the year before maybe) but come playoff time fighting ability has about as much impact as beard growing ability. +1 Getting yourself injured and ending your season is not the smartest move either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted May 10, 2009 Whatever happened to this Kopecky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted May 10, 2009 ^^^^^^^^ Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every 80 yrs or so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
