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lol I know this is satire but Wallstedt let in 1ga .960sv% against 1 of the best offensive teams Finland. Cossa let in 2ga .910sv% against 1 of the worst offensive teams Latvia. Wallstedt gave his team every opportunity to win if Cossa was in net for Finland Sweden would of won. Side note Edvinsson didnt look good hopefully lingering sideeffects from food poisoning.

You keep trying to paint a picture that Zadinas only asset is being cheap. Anyone that has paid any attention knows thats not true. Hes done enough early in his career to warrant more time. Lol at the Pulkinen comp 22pts in 83gp. Zadina has triple pts in double gp at an age before Pulk played his first game. Imo Zadina should start on L3 with Suter and Kub and pp2. Fabbris injured Ras should be 4c with Sundqvist imo. Btw Ras is a yr ahead of Zadina has less pts in more gp just had his breakout season and still scored at a lower pts/gp then Zadinas avg.

Asks why he should get one more chance. Proceeds to say that you would give him once more chance lol. 1yr deal at $1m sounds good to me tho I think hell get more. I never said he should be gifted opportunity he should and imo will earn that. He should have to earn his spot in the lineup no different then any other player on the team especially true with a new coach. Its you saying we should get rid of him to gift opportunity to other less deserving players.

No my entire rationale is that hes been good and still has room to grow. What do you suggest SY should do with Zadina let him walk? Terrible asset management. Theres no gaurantee any of Berggren Soderblom Andreasson would be as good as Zadina let alone better. Never said anything about Zadina scoring 40pts I said none of the players you mentioned as replacements would put up 40pts. Zadinas produced at a 30-35pt pace if your gonna let him walk you better know theres significant upgrade coming in to replace him. You dont know that with any of the players your talking about. Whos pet project? Whos overinflating him? Only thing I see pro-Zadina ppl saying is hes nearing the end of his leash but should get 1 more chance. If he fails get rid of him.

Id be good with this the only thing we shouldnt be doing imo is let him walk or trade him for peanuts now. He needs 1 more season under Lalonde imo. great is an odd word choice. Noone is expecting him to be great atp. more like sure he hasnt been good enough but hes still young enough that he should continue to improve. Maybe he doesnt but imo he deserves another chance under a new coahc. What do you think SY could get for Zadina right now? Im confused by why your so anxious to get rid of him only to replace him by a player that probly isnt any better. Zadina played in the AHL 2yrs ago and put up similar numbers as Berggren last season and you think hes gonna step into the NHL and be better right off the hop? I wouldnt hold my breath. Soderblom and Andreasson havent played a single game in na and you think there gonna step into the NHL and put up 40pts? Not gonna happen.

Tbh I dont have high expectations for Zadina I just dont agree with giving up on him at this point in his carrer. Its getting close tho. Worst case hes a 3w best case hes a 2w. Atp I think hes closer to the lower end of that but if he is hell be paid like it. No worries of overpay from SY. Ive expressed how highly I view Soderblom but Im not sure Berggren or broken down Fabbri are better then Zadina at this point. As for Cossa ya he sucks balls shoulda drafted Wallstedt.

Bad asset management by another gm doesnt mean SY should mismanage his assets. Both were then signed by SY. Both are better but older and making more them what Zadina will make. All 3 will likely play on a line together Suter making over 3m Kub making just under 3m and Zadina making under 2m. Zadina would fetch more then a 3/4 round pick imo but lets say thats all he gets. Wtf would you want to get rid of him then unless your suggesting not even sign him which is even worse. Give the kid another look this season and if he doesnt improve ship his ass out.

If Berggren or Soderblom earn a spot great but I still dont think either take a spot from Zadina and even if they do neither are much if at all an upgrade this season imo. There worse players on this roster but Zadina is the whipping boy because he was a 6oa pick. Thinking Zadina is a loser is a loser mentality imo. Poor asset management and Im sure SY isnt about that. Noone is saying keep Zadina regardless how he plays but he deserves a shot under the new coach imo. Worthless asset is a stretch. Your bias is showing.

Did anyone say Zadina is anything special/remarkable/irreplaceable? I dont know what your point or agenda is but it sounds like you just wanna replace Zadina for the sake of it regardless how he performs or how little he makes.

Im not sure where you get this idea that Zadina is bad. Hes a NHL player. Who cares if he never reaches top6 level hell never get paid like it either.

Whatever you say. No gm would give up assets for a 22yo former 6oa 25-35pt winger theyd obv rather the 32yo winger who is slightly more productive. Zadina is a fine 3w that could become a 2w if Lalonde lits a fire under his ass. Either way SY will pay him his worth or ship him out for a reasonable return. We dont have to worry about him being overpaid like we would of under KH.

Clearly you dont but unfortunate to your argument gms do. Age is a huge factor when trading for or signing players.

Theres not a single <23yo FA that can be signed with Zadinas draft pedigree. Like it or not that matters to NHL gms. Imo most gms in the league would give up a 2nd or equivalent now and much more if he pops off this season. Give him 1 more season under a new coach to see what he can do.

Zadina wont ever be the top winger ppl were expecting when drafted but hes still effective mid6 winger. Zadina is what he is regardless where he was drafted. Its not like hes a overpaid player on a bad contract. Just hasnt met draft expectations yet that can be said for lotsa 22yo players. Hes consistently produced at a 25-35pt pace. If he has another season in that range he settles in as a good 3w and gets paid as such. Thats a 52pt pace. If he has a season like this maybe hes starting to turn the corner and look like a possible 2w. No you dont trade that unless its for a big return. Lets not pretend teams wouldnt be lining up to acquire a former 6oa pick at that production regardless what you think of him now. If Zad puts up 35pts in 55gp your probly looking at a late 1st+. At that point Id be happy with keeping him or getting that sort of return. Hes far from a lost cause yet lets see how he does under a new coach.

Bertuzzi replacement.

Just another reason SY shoulda taken Wallstedt over Cossa.

Unfortunately Cossa sucks and wont play the Swedish Wall(stedt) will shut the door on the lackluster Canadian boys. Edvinsson will continue to dominate along with Wallinder and Niederbach.

I do like Hagg and would prefer him over Oesterle. I think Edvinsson makes it but would be fine with Hagg-Lindstrom 3rd pair to.

Walman is injured. Edvinsson has to beat out Hagg and Oesterle.

Neither has a Austrian player guess we shouldnta drafted Kasper either.

Cossas a goof Canadian. Id rather the stoic Swede. Also good friend of Edvinsson. SY isnt infallible unfortunately made a big mistake on this one.

It could be just that Draper was banging the table harder for Cossa and maybe Hakan didnt have much of an opinion on the 2 goalies. Im sure there are Swedes that HA wants at every single pick but SY/KD obv arent taking all Swedes every draft.

In between the awesome numbers were to many terrible numbers it seemed like for every shutout he had a sub .900 game. Those awesome numbers were also on a top team in a weak league. No he didnt play in any tournament games and wont this time around either because like last winter he sucked balls in the games before the tourney even started. Maybe Im mixing up dev camp and training camp? Cossa definitely played scrimmage games in a Red Wings jersey last summer and sucked then to. Wallstedt will be a elite starting goalie for 15yrs. Cossa might play in the league but wont ever be a starter imo.

Im not even sure how this is a hot take at this point. Hes been mediocre/awful since drafted. He struggled at times in jr this season bad in wjc this past winter and again yesterday terrible at dev camp last year and again a few weeks ago. Hes gonna get lit tf up if he plays in gr this season. Shoulda drafted the brick Wallstedt.

Cossa sucks balls.