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I trust that Holland and co. saw something that was disposable in Jarnkrok. Theres a reason theyve held so strongly with the others, including Jurco. And one cannot trust the 'editors' at NHL.com to make a list of groceries let alone top prospects. Keep in mind that the highly touted Forsberg has yet to prove he can play the North American game as well. What I'm trying to say is I hope to god that Jarnkrok doesn't pan out.

http://www.kuklaskorner.com/index.php/psh/comments/worst_20_team_and_zone_adjusted_corsi_ratings1/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Thoughts? Cory Emmerton is the worst player on the list other than players that were traded (like Nick Schultz, according to the article). Holmstrom is in the mix, as well as Kindl. You guys firm believers in these stats?

i think you missed the fact that this was hypothetical lol. what hes trying to say, i think, is that suter and parise are overpaid to the nines and we are getting great bang for our buck here in detroit.

Ew. Nutjob alert.

AND a nice little article: http://www.freep.com/article/20120708/COL01/207080601/Mitch-Albom-With-Ryan-Suter-on-Red-Wings-or-not-Detroit-is-still-Hockeytown Discuss!

Soo its reported that they do indeed talk and might want to play together. Only Minnesota and us can afford both as legitimate options.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ^^^^

You guys are awesome. I don't know many wings fan up here in toronto so it's awesome to go through this s*** show of a free agency with some cool wings fans. Having said that, it's pretty funny seeing how we're all freaking out and all our friends and families hate us because we haven't payed any attention to them. Cheers guys, however it plays out. It's been fun so far.

Seconded. Speculation and rumours are speculation and rumours. Don't count us out of anything. Not yet.

Why does everyone hate on my boy Franzen? Davidf****** Jones costs 4mil a year for 20 goals. And that's without being a playoff beast (yes I still believe Franzen's got it). Keep him!

Pens have 10 million in space right now. We have 16.8. Before the start of the season, teams can overspend by 7mil... Giving both wings and pens chance to grab both, although it's far more realistic for us.

Everything you hear right now is speculation. Hes going home to decide. It's just guys like Eklund (losers) spinning b.s. to keep us entranced. Parise could easily still choose the Wings IMO. It's all just a s*** show!

I'm glad people agree about Fil's worth. Love the guy, even before this past breakout season. And I'm also sure Zetterberg would be PISSED if Fil was traded.

Filppula is NOT table scraps. 60 points and awesome defense. In my mind its almost an even trade between Fil and Ryan... but some people call me CRAAAAAAZAAAAY.

Ah yeah just found that as well. Filppula and... Eaves?

Alright, what do you all think we'd have to give up?

Fair enough in my eyes. Good luck to your future endeavors Joey.

Good riddance ya bum.

This is literally the dumbest post I've seen on these forums in my short time here. First off... Trade Johan Franzen and WHO ELSE (this is whats required according to Scott Howson: top-line forward, two top-six defensemen, two top prospects and multiple first-round picks). Second, there is NO possibility we get all three. Ludicrous! This isn't even a rumour its a fart in the wind.

what the f***.... Hell yeah you wouldn't get rid of Zetterberg. I don't care how big that contract is. Guy took us on his back right to the 08 cup.

Hahaha fantastic. I'm glad that was quoted so we got to see that dumb fcker twice. Too funny.

I agree with you about the front-heavy contracts. But my 10 million reference point is not out of thin air. I was plainly stating that player salaries are not simply based on the cap and the cap alone. Obviously they have a lot to do with relativity - that is to say for example, David Jones' contract set the bar for other 20-25 goal scorers' salaries this free agency period. Crosby's salary must be cap-compliant, but also compliant RELATIVE to other players, otherwise it would just seem ridiculous to a GM. For example, if Parise wanted 10 million, only the most desperate of teams would sign him for this, because relatively speaking it is ludicrous to pay Parise more than Crosby, Geno and Ovechkin. Taking the relativity point into consideration, I hope my overall point is now clear: Crosby 'settling' for 9 million is still ridiculous. Salaries are just too damn high. The 20% maximum of a cap for a player's salary does not have to be reached even though I can see why it serves as a good standard. I just see no reason to pay a s***head like Crosby or any other bum that much money. Crosby shouldnt be paid any more than 10 mil or I'll cry like he does.

Why does he have to be worth 8 mil into his 40's? Who says he makes it there? The reason the contract currently signed is so long is because it is front-loaded. They would just make a front-loaded contract with an average hit of 8 mil = therefore the cap it of 8 mil. He is easily worth that, and so is Datsyuk. If talks about Parise being worth 9-10 million are surfacing, then no KIDDING Hank is worth 8 million. He has 102 playoff points in 109 playoff games, close to the highest among active players. My point is that regardless of the fact that under a 70.3 mil cap, Crosby not taking 14 million a year is not a "discount". Relatively speaking, no player in the NHL is currently worth that if the highest paid player is Ovechkin at 9.5. Crosby would be worth 10 at the max in this case. Crosby taking 9 instead of 10, a whopping1 million difference is not a discount. Hank and Pav took legitimate discounts for their teams. I understand what you're saying, but I'm trying to step out of the NHL for a second and look at the actual numbers these kids are earning... and it is simply ludicrous to say that from 10 million dollars to 9 is a discount.

Oh no you dit'nt.