whitewolf406

Agreed, look at the defense that were in front of those goalies. This years defense would have chased Carey Price.

"If I'm Holland". Sorry kids, he's not going to fix this mess he made it. We've lost to much talent in the the front office, not just on the ice. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

The time for Babcock to move is here. I can see him going to WIN/CAL/EDM. Why, first closer to where he lives now. After the death of your father, you start to think about those things differently. Second, all have decent young cores to which to build and the managment in any of those places should be pretty willing to give him the player personnel power he wants. Back home in Canada without the enormous cluster that TOR would be and the build up instead of rebuild may be more attractive. Our best option for his replacement IS Bashill. For many and all of the aforementioned reasons and he would come in with a slightly lower level of expectations as apposed to another NHL coach. He get his make it or break it chance in what may be the perfect storm. 50% of our problem IMO has been Hollands penchant to sit on his hands in making moves to get us over the top. Like the deadline moves this year but I think they may have been a year or 2 late. We need someone in that position with his good qualities but a bit of a gamblers streak.

I'll take Stralmam. No to Boyle. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

You guys make me laugh, " I feel old". I was 30 the last time we missed the playoffs. My first game was in November of '67' remember it like it was yesterday. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Olympia_arena_Detroit.jpg The Olympia. Build it around the FF, Comerica area. Old time look to mimick The Olympia, Nickname "The New Red Barn". Amenities to take it into the next century. Bring the statues from the Joe and other significant items. Honor the past history while being new and state of the art. I will admit a soft spot for The Old Red Barn since I watched the Wings there from 67' to 78'.

Look at who was on ice for the GWG. Thought for a moment it was a Griffins game. LET THE KIDS PLAY!

If DeKyser has nowhere to go but up we stole one BIGTIME. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

Sedin got the same as Abs. Canucks= winers and crybabies. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

http://video.tsn.ca/?dl=main/latest/1/0/881073/clip/102 Perry<>White, Franzen, + __________. Perry for White is basically rental for rental with the potential to work something out before July. Franzen may be/is in need of a change of scenery although we have shown a penchant for not getting rid of the Swede's. ANA could keep White or use him in another deal. Fill in the blank on your favorite other player to ship out. Think the price for a "top 4 D man" at the trade deadline is higher than they'll be worth. I like Perry for our transition to the East and bridging the gap between our over 30 forwards and the younger guys. ANA may be more apt to work with us knowing will soon be out of the conference.

I agree, and maybe misspoke, but that was my point. I too want him to try to improve the team instead of standing pat, which in most cases is akin to going backwards.

Agree about Lang. But there isn't any difference between doing nothing and being wrong and doing something and being wrong. Sometime Hollands moves don't work out, but rarely does he really blow it out his ass. Agree 100% this year is about youth. I firmly belive the "over ripe" way bringing guys up needs to be scaled back. "I'd be more comfortable with better depth on defence than all of our depth up front." I just feel better depth on the blue line gives us a better shot of staying in the playoffs. Not for the sake of the streak but for the opportunity to make sure the youth gets playoff experince as well.

I don't think this whole debate is as irrelivant or stupid as some have said. Of all the hair brained, half cocked ideas thrown around here I finally think this one may make sense. If your not going to land a dominant #1, what's wrong with stacking your team with #2 through 6's ? His salary is high, not nearly as much after the last month has played out. Were not eating all the cap room, especially depending on what you may subtract. For what he has produced compaired to what his potential on our team could be, I'll be optimistic and predict slightly higher than his average #'s with relative dependablity thrown in. Two years is perfect to see what you've got, his age and the point he is in his career are plusses. The bigger issue than his price now is what it could go to. Let's say between camp and Oct./Nov. one of our top 6 D goes down for part/most/all of the season (or any other team's). His trade value gets REALLY stupid then. Right now brings the most sane market value, if you want to call it that. I'd be more comfortable with better depth on defence than all of our depth up front. Which brings me to the price we'd have to pay. I won't advocate selling the farm, especially for Bouwmeester, but I honestly belive it's about time for this organization to roll the dice a bit. To pull from another thread, managment has gotten too comfortable. When was the last time we've done something thats raised any eyebrows? It seems like we are the place where you come, play, grow old and retire. Players are just as human as anyone, it's about time this team got a wake up call. Nothing stupid here, but it take's something to get something and the right move could benefit this club. With managment as calculated and stoic as ours it wouldn't take a blockbuster trade to open some eyes. The departures of some of the players on the D opens things up for other guys to bring their game up, giving them a chance to set their place in the lineup, can you say incentive. A calculated risk is still a risk, but it's seems like forever since this team has taken one.